Thanks for the responses! That is good to know about carpets, all of mine have height. BCR229, I have always loved the look of Dumerils but I have never worked with them. I heard from someone years ago that they were very finicky eaters and my ball pythons "I have 2" are a constant source of irritation to me as the rest of my snakes are garbage disposals and the Balls are just so inconsistent. Are the Dums like that or was I misinformed? Thanks again for the insight.