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    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.

    I get that they would probably work very well, but I cant honesty justify that price that when tstats like the one I posted probably work just fine. I'm not a breeder or collector I'm just an average joe with a BP.
    Looking at some reviews these tstats seem to work just fine. But what I originally was asking is if the new UTH temps 77-79 aren't too low temporarily until I get a tstat.

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    Those temps are fine.

    If you would rather not use the uth you can use the lamp alone. You can provide both proper hotspot and ambient temps with a lamp. If you do this a uth is just a luxury and not necessary.

    You are also passing the info to try and find a used one. They are out there. I bought two of mine used for much less than retail. You could at least look around.

    If you think the Herpstat tstats are expensive you for sure don't want to visit a exotic animal vet for treatment of a burn. Google burned snakes and see what a run away uth can do.
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    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.

    As long as they are fine then I'm okay with it for now. I'll look into getting a tstat even if it is one of the Amazon ones.

    And I'm pretty sure she's not gonna get burned. I always make sure the UTH never goes past 90.

    Also I was told the UTH is more important than the lamp. Since snakes (or BPS specifically) don't bask and belly heat is prefered choice. Honestly everytime I ask something to anyone I get a lot of conflicting answers.

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    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.

    Quote Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    As long as they are fine then I'm okay with it for now. I'll look into getting a tstat even if it is one of the Amazon ones.

    And I'm pretty sure she's not gonna get burned. I always make sure the UTH never goes past 90.

    Also I was told the UTH is more important than the lamp. Since snakes (or BPS specifically) don't bask and belly heat is prefered choice. Honestly everytime I ask something to anyone I get a lot of conflicting answers.
    They don't bask, normally. Though they don't bask it is absolutely possible to have a red lamp over a hide to create a warm hide while keeping the air temp correct. I've done it many times. With a lamp and lamp stand or dimmer it is easy to dial in. I've even done it while the snake was in a tub.

    Many large breeders do not offer belly heat and have thriving collections. If belly heat was so important don't you think the breeders would all provide it? Fact is, a snake really just needs proper ambient temps and proper humidity. I consider belly heat a luxury item that I provide because I want to and not because they need it. Most of my snakes hardly ever use it and they are all doing great.
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    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.

    So I suppose as long as her ambient temps and humidity stay at decent levels it'll be fine? I'll never let any temp drop below 70 or go above 90. That much I know.
    And I guess it does make sense that inside her hide its probably a warmer temp because of the small space.

    I just always was kinda confused about how people will tell me to buy this and that when you see breeders who just keep snakes in a plastic tub in stacks with no lamp or humidity control and they live just fine. Cause this isn't a hobby for me, this is just a pet that I care for and have around.

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    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.

    Quote Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    So I suppose as long as her ambient temps and humidity stay at decent levels it'll be fine? I'll never let any temp drop below 70 or go above 90. That much I know.
    And I guess it does make sense that inside her hide its probably a warmer temp because of the small space.

    I just always was kinda confused about how people will tell me to buy this and that when you see breeders who just keep snakes in a plastic tub in stacks with no lamp or humidity control and they live just fine. Cause this isn't a hobby for me, this is just a pet that I care for and have around.
    A think a pet is a hobby. No matter the animal or the amount.

    Most breeders will have a humidity system for the room as well as heat.


    Another piece of kit that can be bought cheap on Amazon is a IR temp gun. This would allow you to easily check all the surface temps so you more accurately know what temps you are providing your snake. Many times you will see a probe thermometer are not very accurate when using them to monitor surface temps. Nothing fancy and under $20.
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    Re: Summer is almost here, temps are changing.

    Quote Originally Posted by FeathersRuff View Post
    They are pretty expensive but I suppose your right. Would you recommend a specific one of maybe one like this?
    cheaper than vet bills and much better than a dead snake or a house fire

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