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Potential room temp problems?
Ok multiple things to cover on this, so thanks in advance for reading!
So I figured I'd run this by you guys while I'm still snakeless and plan how to handle potential problems.
I currently live in an apartment and the room I'm thinking of putting my bp in is the computer room (only real option we have). However the ambient temp in the room tends to range between 76-80, sometimes as low as 75 (rare) or as high as 82.
This varies from the weather, and it's starting to get hotter outside (worried how hot it will be in summer) so temps are averaging closer to 78-80, while colder weather has shown to be closer to 76-77. However, this may change once we move out to get a house, which could be as soon as this or next year or as long as 3-5 years.
Now, will the 76-80 range of changing temperatures be an issue for my bp? I have no concerns of it being too cold but I am starting to worry if it may be too hot, and how that will effect the cool side of my cage and mess with the temp gradient. I'm hoping the thermostat will help regulate that and making sure the heat shuts off when it needs to? I'm going to try and install a window ac unit to help cool things down, as it's too hot for my liking as well.
For heating I was planning on getting both a UTH and a RHP since I'm getting a 48x24x24 cage and when we move to a house, future room ambient temps may be different. While I'm in the apartment I'm wondering if I could manage with just one heat source? When I get my cage I'll most likely have to dedicate a solid 2 weeks to run tests and double check.
That being said, what do you do when you find temperatures are running too hot? What course of actions do you do?
Last edited by MissterDog; 04-22-2017 at 08:52 PM.
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Re: Potential room temp problems?
Honestly, uncovering the screen top during the day makes a huge difference at my house.
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need some help too
hello i am new to the ballpython world and would like some advice as well
Iam sorry, Missterdog to barge in to your thread (because I can't figure out how to create a new thread T-T)
The weather in my country is very hot, its like summer all year round, the lowest it can get during a continuous rainy season is 25 degree celcius
so do I really need to use heat mat? considering the hot weather?
thank you very much
once again I am deeply sorry to interrupt your question Missterdog
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Re: need some help too
 Originally Posted by jodidelisio
hello i am new to the ballpython world and would like some advice as well
Iam sorry, Missterdog to barge in to your thread (because I can't figure out how to create a new thread T-T)
The weather in my country is very hot, its like summer all year round, the lowest it can get during a continuous rainy season is 25 degree celcius
so do I really need to use heat mat? considering the hot weather?
thank you very much
once again I am deeply sorry to interrupt your question Missterdog
No worries! We're all here to learn together and help eachother out hoping someone else will chime in, but from what I understand it would be safest to always have a heat source with a thermostat to keep things regulated and maintaining that gradient heat range. Possibly a lower powered heat pad would work? Again hoping someone else will add to this since I'm speaking with no direct experience.
Last edited by MissterDog; 04-23-2017 at 09:16 AM.
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Potential room temp problems?
 Originally Posted by MissterDog
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That being said, what do you do when you find temperatures are running too hot? What course of actions do you do?
I live in a hot part of the country and run into this problem as well.
The following are the steps I take : (if step 1 fails, move to step 2 and so on)
Step 1) The door to the snake room is usually closed to take advantage of the heat put off by 8 large enclosures; so I open the door to let hot air out and cooler air in.
Step 2) Turn on ceiling fan. (If you don't have one, add a table top fan.)
Step 3) Turn the enclosure thermostats down, and dimmer if using a lamp.
Step 4) Last resort, I open the vent and turn the A/C on. Then readjust the enclosure thermostats.
It's all about subtracting and adding heat/ cold depending upon which direction you need to go.
Last edited by Reinz; 04-23-2017 at 10:12 AM.
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During the warmer months I put an AC in the window and run as needed, keep the windows covered and run the heat tape instead of the rhp. With your room temps being so warm you can definitely run just belly heat.
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Re: Potential room temp problems?
 Originally Posted by Reinz
I live in a hot part of the country and run into this problem as well.
The following are the steps I take : (if step 1 fails, move to step 2 and so on)
Step 1) The door to the snake room is usually closed to take advantage of the heat put off by 8 large enclosures; so I open the door to let hot air out and cooler air in.
Step 2) Turn on ceiling fan. (If you don't have one, add a table top fan.)
Step 3) Turn the enclosure thermostats down, and dimmer if using a lamp.
Step 4) Last resort, I open the vent and turn the A/C on. Then readjust the enclosure thermostats.
It's all about subtracting and adding heat/ cold depending upon which direction you need to go.

Thanks for this! I'll definitely try these methods. For some reason step 3 never even occurred to me but it makes perfect sense lol. How many degrees do you usually dial it back?
Also great looking cages! Which models are your AP cages? I'm looking at getting the T12
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Re: Potential room temp problems?
 Originally Posted by GoingPostal
During the warmer months I put an AC in the window and run as needed, keep the windows covered and run the heat tape instead of the rhp. With your room temps being so warm you can definitely run just belly heat.
I was thinking about using only the UTH to start, especially in the summers. I'm still keeping track of my ambient temps which seem most concerning in summer, but today it finally rained and brought the temp down.
I'm wondering if, when I order my cage (T12) if I can have Pro Panels drop-ship to AP to have the RHP installed for me so I don't have to worry about doing it myself (Not sure if it's the same as Reptile Basics but apparently you have to install the wire yourself?), but not use it until winter or when I move to a house/have lower ambient temp? I'm guessing that should be fine as long as the RHP is not plugged in?
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If ambient range is 75-82, I don't think there is any problem at all.
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Re: Potential room temp problems?
 Originally Posted by MissterDog
Thanks for this! I'll definitely try these methods. For some reason step 3 never even occurred to me but it makes perfect sense lol. How many degrees do you usually dial it back?
Also great looking cages! Which models are your AP cages? I'm looking at getting the T12
It all depends upon how warm the room got.
If the room increased 5 degrees, I may drop the thermostats down 3-4 degrees. Sometimes I keep going up and down during the day until it is right. You just have keep adjusting and measuring with your heat gun a few hours later.
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Sundance, 2012
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