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    Baytril for RI causing red spots

    My young feemal burm came down with a cold. She spewed mucus once and shown little other symptoms but the vet found a lower RI and lung wash showed staphylococcus.

    I've benn injecting 4cc baytril + other 4cc of saline solution under the skin every 24 hours for the past 10 days as prescribed, still have a couple of weeks to go before treatment is done.

    I've noticed today some red shadows where previous injection were given


    Has anyone experienced this with Baytril before? I have an appointment to check with the vet on Monday.

    She doesn't seem particularly better or worse, especially considering how little signs there were before. She hisses a lot, maybe more than usual but that might be caused by stress from the injection. I haven't seen any mucus or bubble since that first time.

    Any help is appreciated
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    Unfortunately this is a known side effect of Baytril injections. I would ask your vet if another antibiotic such as Fortaz or Naxcel could be used instead.

    If the reactions at the injection sites worsen and your snake ends up with open sores, you can treat them with Vetericyn.

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    See this alot when using baytril on koi usually when it injected into them to fast and it pools under the skin

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    Yeah most vets are phasing out Baytril on snakes, because a) it can leave scaring and b) it's not as effective. I would ask for something else.

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    Its because you didn't go deep enough. Baytril needs to be used in the muscle, not just under the skin. That is pretty much a burn. My vet doesn't like to use Baytril. My vet gave me Fortaz for my big girl had a sinus infection. Worked awesome.
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    Thank you so much!!

    I'll try to go deeper into the muscle from now on and talk with the vet about other treatment possible.
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    Re: Baytril for RI causing red spots

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Its because you didn't go deep enough. Baytril needs to be used in the muscle, not just under the skin. That is pretty much a burn. My vet doesn't like to use Baytril. My vet gave me Fortaz for my big girl had a sinus infection. Worked awesome.
    Using it intramuscularly instead of under the skin just means the damage isn't visible. It still happens. Enrofloxacin (baytril) is known to cause muscle necrosis. It sounds like it was prescribed SQ, so I wouldn't switch it to IM without talking to the vet. Although either way it sounds like either more dilution or switching to a different broad spectrum antibiotic like ceftadizime (fortaz) is in order.

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    Re: Baytril for RI causing red spots

    Oh, just to check, you are mixing the baytril with the saline solution, correct? Not injecting separately?

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    Re: Baytril for RI causing red spots

    Quote Originally Posted by Kcl View Post
    Oh, just to check, you are mixing the baytril with the saline solution, correct? Not injecting separately?
    Yes, equal part baytril and saline. 0.4 cc each mixed in the syringe for a total of 0.8cc.

    I'm doing the injection as showed by the vet, I'm quite sure it's subcutaneous. It sure leaves a bubble of liquid under the skin.
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    Re: Baytril for RI causing red spots

    Quote Originally Posted by Aste88 View Post
    Yes, equal part baytril and saline. 0.4 cc each mixed in the syringe for a total of 0.8cc.

    I'm doing the injection as showed by the vet, I'm quite sure it's subcutaneous. It sure leaves a bubble of liquid under the skin.
    Ok- just wanted to make sure that nothing basic was being missed! Sounds like you are doing it as prescribed. On the same note, just to verify, you are changing injection sites every time and switching sides, correct? But yeah, baytril is well known to cause damage when injected, particularly in bigger snakes where the dosage is higher. Due to the low pH I believe. As I said, switching from subcutaneous to intramuscular just moves the damage, it doesn't make it go away. Sometimes people prefer it just because it doesn't have the same potential to create scarring, but it also means you can't monitor how bad it is. Talk to your vet before changing from the prescribed method.

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