Female acting "restless"

[zina10]

You are right, it doesn't do any good to worry.

But I still do at times Can't help it. I got quite attached to those buggers over the years.

I think I may just turn on the incubator and start getting the temps and everything ready in a couple of weeks JUST IN CASE that last shed was the post ovulation shed.
Worst thing that could happen is that I turn it off again if "nothing" happens Or I might get a ovulation within the next couple of weeks.

Thanks for all the help, advice and kind words. Its always so different when its ones own animals.

Its like that with horses. When someone elses horses has an emergency or a bad colic, I am on top of it with helping (I have lots of experience with it, unfortunately)
When it is my own mare, I'm a mess...

[JodanOrNoDan]

You are right, it doesn't do any good to worry.

But I still do at times Can't help it. I got quite attached to those buggers over the years.

I think I may just turn on the incubator and start getting the temps and everything ready in a couple of weeks JUST IN CASE that last shed was the post ovulation shed.
Worst thing that could happen is that I turn it off again if "nothing" happens Or I might get a ovulation within the next couple of weeks.

Thanks for all the help, advice and kind words. Its always so different when its ones own animals.

Its like that with horses. When someone elses horses has an emergency or a bad colic, I am on top of it with helping (I have lots of experience with it, unfortunately)
When it is my own mare, I'm a mess...

No harm in firing up the incubator. I thought I missed an ovy and fired mine up early this year only to turn it back off. Horses are in their own league with stuff to worry about, mare A kicked mare B in the head etc... Maybe your vet is visiting soon and has a portable ultra-sound? hint hint.

[zina10]

Scary thing is, we really do not have great vets around here at all. For horses or reptiles.

I DO like my regular vet, and he does horses too, but nothing that needs any kind of specialized care or treatment.
I had to trailer my mare almost 3 hours away to the Auburn university to have colic surgery performed (talk about a bill, omg..) but even just any more then ordinary treatment or fluids..you have to drive hours away.

So sadly, no portable ultra sound. Do I wish, though, that sure would make things easier, LOL!!!

[JodanOrNoDan]

Man that sucks. Our vet and ferrier always made regular trips to the barn. It had to be pretty serious for the horse to have to leave. I can't imagine working with horses and not having a vet on call. I guess the animals were pretty pampered. The place I apprenticed at the horses didn't even have to go outside. The whole place was air conditioned. The animals I personally owned were not that sheltered. I used to take them to the beach all the time, but close to shows they got the diva treatment too.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Based on the timeline of when she moved back to the warm side and when she had a shed that would lead me to believe that you may have missed the ovulation.

Y ou are basically describi bg a move to the warm side + shed two weeks late which would be textbook.

Now it is possible to miss an ovulation most are ovious some not always depending on the animal.

Here is a little trick pick her up and hold her head down and tail up making sure you see her profile, then switch and reverse tail down and head up.

If gravid you will actually see the eggs move and will be able to count them.

It's not unusual for some females to be restless, the only concern I have are for females who are restless and way overdue.

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[zina10]

Based on the timeline of when she moved back to the warm side and when she had a shed that would lead me to believe that you may have missed the ovulation.

Y ou are basically describi bg a move to the warm side + shed two weeks late which would be textbook.

Now it is possible to miss an ovulation most are ovious some not always depending on the animal.

Here is a little trick pick her up and hold her head down and tail up making sure you see her profile, then switch and reverse tail down and head up.

If gravid you will actually see the eggs move and will be able to count them.

It's not unusual for some females to be restless, the only concern I have are for females who are restless and way overdue.

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Oh, she is not going to be happy with me

But I will try that upside down, right side up trick. Haven't heard of that one yet, but it makes sense.
I used to try to feel for follicles but gave up. I couldn't feel a thing and I wasn't sure how much pressure was safe. I played it safe.

She is still with the male. Would she allow him to breed her if she was past ovulation? I only put him in there with her to see if she was restless for wanting her male ..
When I put him in she was very non excited. She stopped cruising but she just laid there like "whatever" while he spurred and spurred (first time I got to see that, very cool)

I expected them to be apart this morning, alas, they locked.

As soon as they are apart I will try that trick to look for eggs..

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Oh, she is not going to be happy with me

But I will try that upside down, right side up trick. Haven't heard of that one yet, but it makes sense.
I used to try to feel for follicles but gave up. I couldn't feel a thing and I wasn't sure how much pressure was safe. I played it safe.

She is still with the male. Would she allow him to breed her if she was past ovulation? I only put him in there with her to see if she was restless for wanting her male ..
When I put him in she was very non excited. She stopped cruising but she just laid there like "whatever" while he spurred and spurred (first time I got to see that, very cool)

I expected them to be apart this morning, alas, they locked.

As soon as they are apart I will try that trick to look for eggs..

Well sadly they don't all read the same breeding handbook lol

While we give averages and things that are supposed to happen they are things that I have seen that were not ordinary like feeding right up to their laying date, 2 pre-lay sheds, no pre-lay shed, laying over 50 days POS....now I have not seen a female being receptive after ovulating but again they don't all follow the manual to a T

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[zina10]

Well...I am a failure

I grabbed Maja and held her upside down by the tail. I swear she gave me some looks...and boy is she heavy and its kind of awkward to hold them that way. She didn't really relax and kept trying to move up, but couldn't quite make it. So then I moved her and held her by the neck. That didn't impress her much either..

I don't know..It seems like something moved inside her body , but I didn't see individual shapes. She does look rather "full" for not having eaten in a while.

After turning her over again to try once more and a long reproachful look from her, I gave up. I guess whatever happens, will happen, LOL

[zina10]

And here she is, the trouble maker, back to resting on her warm end.

I'm sure if snakes had a middle finger, she would have shown me hers...

aww...but isn't she pretty For a over 6 year old Bumble Bee, look at her color. Taken in bad light, yet she looks so nice. Such a good girl, too.
I love that girl, even though she is driving me crazy!

[JodanOrNoDan]

Well...I am a failure

I grabbed Maja and held her upside down by the tail. I swear she gave me some looks...and boy is she heavy and its kind of awkward to hold them that way. She didn't really relax and kept trying to move up, but couldn't quite make it. So then I moved her and held her by the neck. That didn't impress her much either..

I don't know..It seems like something moved inside her body , but I didn't see individual shapes. She does look rather "full" for not having eaten in a while.

After turning her over again to try once more and a long reproachful look from her, I gave up. I guess whatever happens, will happen, LOL

When I have tried this I hold them near the both ends so they have an illusion of support. There is no way to say this that it doesn't sound odd, but I treat all mine like horses. They have to let me touch them where I want and handle them how I want. This is of course much more easily done when you hatch them yourself. The first thing they see in the daylight is me. The first thing that touches them is me. This process begins before they are all the way out of the egg. So far, knock on wood, nothing I have hatched so much as hisses at me. All the ones I have kept to this day let me do as I please with them. Females that I am keeping are "felt up" every time they go back in the tub from the time of their first sheds. Both sexes are taught to allow me to inspect the vent and to touch their heads. I use the same pattern every time I clean their tubs. Animals that I have purchased are harder to acclimate. It does not seem to matter how old they are. Most eventually grow accustomed to the routine. The odd hard to deal with ones are once again dealt with like horses. Negative behavior is not tolerated. If they hiss or get in a striking position when there is no food present, they are coming out of the tub until they calm down. Long story short, let the animal get used to what you expect from her. They need to be relaxed in order to do "pregnancy tests" or to inspect follicles.

She is a pretty girl. Hopefully she will give you some little ones.