**GRAPHIC** Reminder to always monitor live feedings!!!

[highqualityballz]

This is a photo I came across. The owner offered a live rat and without witnessing the snake kill that rat, they went to sleep. Warning graphic but it's an important reminder https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9a&oe=595822DB

[kxr]

... plz no


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[OneEyedFox]

This is exactly one of the biggest reasons I stopped feeding live. Jeez, just looking at that makes me sick and sad. I'm gonna go cuddle with Calliope now...


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[BBotteron]

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[Stewart_Reptiles]

This is a photo I came across. The owner offered a live rat and without witnessing the snake kill that rat, they went to sleep. Warning graphic but it's an important reminder https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9a&oe=595822DB

I am sorry but there is more to it than not watching a snake while feeding, that what many people would like other to believe and this is why they are pushing the F/T agenda and you are falling right for it.

I have been breeding both snakes and rodents for a decade and I can assure you that responsible live feeding can be done safely and this is not responsible live feeding, not even a always monitor feeding warning.

Rodents don't just attack a snake and shred it to pieces exposing flesh and bones, that happens when a feeder is starved and dehydrated and then left hours or but more often days with a snake, of course no one will admit that, they would rather say "look this what happen when you feed live or don't monitor feeding"

When you feed live th majority of the time If not snatched before hitting the cage floor the feeder will go in a corner, groom itself and fall asleep and has not time to inflict such damage when left 10 to 15 min with a snake.

I wish people would think before posting pictures like that (thinking they help others by doing so) that type of picture always have a back story whether the owner admits it or not.

You don't educate people trying to scare them off with pictures that are not representative.

[MidSouthMorphs]

Crazy when old pictures get shared as new ones smh. But agreed with everything Deborah said, think before posting.


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[cron14]

I am sorry but there is more to it than not watching a snake while feeding, that what many people would like other to believe and this is why they are pushing the F/T agenda and you are falling right for it.

I have been breeding both snakes and rodents for a decade and I can assure you that responsible live feeding can be done safely and this is not responsible live feeding, not even a always monitor feeding warning.

Rodents don't just attack a snake and shred it to pieces exposing flesh and bones, that happens when a feeder is starved and dehydrated and then left hours or but more often days with a snake, of course no one will admit that, they would rather say "look this what happen when you feed live or don't monitor feeding"

When you feed live th majority of the time If not snatched before hitting the cage floor the feeder will go in a corner, groom itself and fall asleep and has not time to inflict such damage when left 10 to 15 min with a snake.

I wish people would think before posting pictures like that (thinking they help others by doing so) that type of picture always have a back story whether the owner admits it or not.

You don't educate people trying to scare them off with pictures that are not representative.

As the owner of a single BP who refuses F/T, I second this from my limited experience. I saw that picture floating around on FB today and immediately thought, time to try F/T again. However, reading Deborah's comment, her experiences have been very similar to mine. The live feeders I buy get put into a small cardboard box, which I place in my T-8 as soon as I get home. I know within five minutes whether Monty is interested or not judging by if he comes out of his hide. There are sometimes where the rat needs to run around the cage a little bit in order to attract the necessary attention. 9 out of ten times the rat hangs out in a corner until Monty strikes or until it is removed. Knowing your animal helps a lot with this. There is a lot more to this story than being put out there.

[zina10]

Ugh, I wish I hadn't seen that...

I know there was a warning and I wish I hadn't clicked on it.

Like Deb said, though, that was not a "overnight" feeding error. I call BS on that. That rat been feasting for a while.

Feeding, just like every other aspect in pet/snake ownership needs to be done responsibly. Whether live, FT, prekilled or whatever. I always cringe when I hear about "stunning" the rodents and such. I know they are food, but really, why torture them.

They should be well fed and watered and treated well, before being fed off. Lessens the chances of them going in "primed" and aggressive. Besides, its the right thing to do. On another forum I read a story on how someone stunned a rat 3 times!!! And it still lived. They said it was "wonky" but since it survived 3 stunnings plus the snake didn't want it, it "earned" life and they were going to just let it live. What the heck. What kind of life is that. Of course its wonky if its skull was near crushed 3 times. Things like this just make me sick. I'm sure that poor rat passed away eventually.

I feed FT because I'm fortunate enough that all mine take that, while its the most economical and easy choice for me as well. If others feed live, because for them it makes more sense, then I have no problem with it. But it needs to be done right.
If accidents happen, then the experienced handlers know how to treat the wounds or they will have the means to have it treated by a vet if it comes to that.

That picture displays no feeding mistake. It displays stupidity and cruelty on the owners part. The snake had to pay, and the rat will die, too. How they could go ahead and take a picture like that, I cannot fathom. Perhaps they should put that in their wallet and look at it each time they are tempted to get another pet.

[highqualityballz]

I am sorry but there is more to it than not watching a snake while feeding, that what many people would like other to believe and this is why they are pushing the F/T agenda and you are falling right for it.

I have been breeding both snakes and rodents for a decade and I can assure you that responsible live feeding can be done safely and this is not responsible live feeding, not even a always monitor feeding warning.

Rodents don't just attack a snake and shred it to pieces exposing flesh and bones, that happens when a feeder is starved and dehydrated and then left hours or but more often days with a snake, of course no one will admit that, they would rather say "look this what happen when you feed live or don't monitor feeding"

When you feed live th majority of the time If not snatched before hitting the cage floor the feeder will go in a corner, groom itself and fall asleep and has not time to inflict such damage when left 10 to 15 min with a snake.

I wish people would think before posting pictures like that (thinking they help others by doing so) that type of picture always have a back story whether the owner admits it or not.

You don't educate people trying to scare them off with pictures that are not representative.

First off I feed live when need be, this was not to scare anyone but to show them the dangers of leaving a live rodent with a snake for a long period of time without supervision. Whether you like it or not there is a risk with feeding live without supervision whether the rodent is happy or not. Again I feed live, f/t, and p/k, I have 0 problems with people feeding live. If you think about it, what if that guy read this post before leaving that rodent with the snake overnight? Could've saved his snake. Nothing wrong with showing people what COULD happen with live feeding if you don't know what your doing!

[zina10]

Of course you shouldn't leave a live rodent with a snake. But I don't think that happened overnight...

But I HAVE seen damage that did happen overnight.

If feeding live, you should always take the time to make sure the rodent was killed and eaten. Once the rodent is grabbed and constricted, you should give the snake privacy. But after some time one should make the rounds and check on everybody.