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    Question Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Hello!
    I have been regulating my Herpstat 2 for a while, it is currently running one rack -- Which only has two tiers with flexwatt set up until I solder the rest.
    I am putting a yearling ball python and an older ball python in Sterilite (28qt) tubs.
    Anyways I'm stuck with some questions because I honestly would rather ask and be safe than hurt my "children."


    My Herpstat 2 Questions/Settings:

    1.) I set it as 92.0*F on Dimming (Heat), but it doesn't get past 28%... Is that okay? I noticed that it turns off the power strip, I assume it's to prevent going past your desired heat? Will this cause my ball pythons to have moments where they are cold? It turns back on literally within a second.

    2.) What is AO & IO in safety? I have mine set to IO (Exclude H/L) randomly.

    3.) I plugged in another probe and set it up as Dimming (Heat), it is not connected to any power strips on that side. Is it okay to use the probe to watch the cool side? Since there's nothing connected, do I need to have it as maximum power or does that not matter? Does it need to be under Dimming (Heat)? This probe reads 100%, unlike the side that actually is giving off heat. The side is at 80.1*F.

    In advance, thank you. I may or may not have any more questions. I did read the manual, but first-hand help really makes me feel secure.
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    Herpstat 2 Questions!

    1) Its saying 100% because it doesn't recognize a heat source to get it to the chosen temp under #2.. so its giving full power potential to outlet on Herpstat that a heat source would be plugged into. You can turn the Power percent down or lower the Factory setting Temp and that would change the percent of power to 0.

    2) as far as 28%. Do you have the Power potential setting on full 100% power?
    If you do the only reason you would be running at a low percent is because the Temp is up to 91/92 already and thats what Dimming (proportional ) does.. Its cuts down on power to regulate.

    3) Ao/Io Ive never used.. Its on default.

    Maybe one of the others can teach us something tonight about that Safety setting.
    I use my HI/LO alarms but dont know about AO/IO.





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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexiethekitten View Post
    1.) I set it as 92.0*F on Dimming (Heat), but it doesn't get past 28%... Is that okay? I noticed that it turns off the power strip, I assume it's to prevent going past your desired heat? Will this cause my ball pythons to have moments where they are cold? It turns back on literally within a second.
    Dimming mode is best for most heat sources - perfect. It's doing exactly what it should be doing under dimming mode - only giving the proper amount of power necessary to keep your heat source at the temperature you have it set at. The power strip probably isn't turning completely off, but going below a level to support the light being on (I assume that's how you're seeing that it's going off). Do you have anything else plugged into that power strip? If not, a plain ole extension cord will work and you can save that strip to use elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexiethekitten View Post
    2.) What is AO & IO in safety? I have mine set to IO (Exclude H/L) randomly.
    Here's a link to the Herpstat User's Manual: http://www.spyderrobotics.com/manual...t12_manual.pdf.. The section on Safety Setup is on the second to last page. The setting you have it on is the default setting, but there are other options should you choose to use them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexiethekitten View Post
    3.) I plugged in another probe and set it up as Dimming (Heat), it is not connected to any power strips on that side. Is it okay to use the probe to watch the cool side? Since there's nothing connected, do I need to have it as maximum power or does that not matter? Does it need to be under Dimming (Heat)? This probe reads 100%, unlike the side that actually is giving off heat. The side is at 80.1*F.
    What you're doing with the 2nd probe is basically turning it into a thermometer (a really expensive one ). The reason it reads maximum power is that the temperature setting you have that probe set to is higher than the temperature it's reading. It's trying to heat something and not being successful because there's nothing plugged in. If you want to use it this way, you could turn that probe's temp down as low as it'll go (hopefully well below room temp) and it won't try to send power to that output anymore. If you're not powering a heat source through the second port, it doesn't matter what heat setting it's on (dimming, on/off, etc).

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexiethekitten View Post
    In advance, thank you. I may or may not have any more questions. I did read the manual, but first-hand help really makes me feel secure.
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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Both of my snakes still feel relatively cold to the touch whenever I take them out to handle, even with the temperature being at 92*F.
    Could it be the flexwatt? I had a friend who set it up for me, he breeds ball pythons and has multiple racks himself. I trusted him more than myself with it, but I will be connecting the rest of the levels once I get more ordered in.
    The power strip is connected to the Herpstat 2 via the back, however, only two extension cords are plugged into the strip itself (which are the flexwatt ones), I plan to use the remaining outlets once I get the rest in.

    Side #1 is reading as 92*F at 24%, it's at its maximum power (100). I have seen it go to 48% ONCE, but it hasn't since.
    Side #2, still using it as a probe, is at 73.6*F at 100%. What do I lower its maximum to, 0? I may unplug it since the cold side remains the same, normally.

    The default setting probably seems easiest for safety reasons, I just don't have a high/low alarm set up or anything. I will probably get into it more once I keep reading up and thinking about it. Thanks for the link, I bookmarked it since it's easier to read from my laptop.

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    Take the animal's temp with a heat gun. It is very hard to guesstimate reptile temps with your hands. Check the rest of the enclosure with the gun too for that matter. Displayed temp != what is getting to the animal.

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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Quote Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    Take the animal's temp with a heat gun. It is very hard to guesstimate reptile temps with your hands. Check the rest of the enclosure with the gun too for that matter. Displayed temp != what is getting to the animal.
    I've let my mom know that I need to purchase one ASAP... Hell, feeling the flexwatt with my hand... What's supposed to be 92*F feels lukewarm since we are warmblooded and such. I will definitely get one and check with that, I need the best for my kiddos. Thursday would probably be the day I could swing by a Home Depot and order one, or I'll just get it from Amazon. I see all of these random numbers and I don't understand a thing. :-) They are kinda cheap in price though, I'm not complaining.

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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    1) Its saying 100% because it doesn't recognize a heat source to get it to the chosen temp under #2.. so its giving full power potential to outlet on Herpstat that a heat source would be plugged into. You can turn the Power percent down or lower the Factory setting Temp and that would change the percent of power to 0.

    2) as far as 28%. Do you have the Power potential setting on full 100% power?
    If you do the only reason you would be running at a low percent is because the Temp is up to 91/92 already and thats what Dimming (proportional ) does.. Its cuts down on power to regulate.

    3) Ao/Io Ive never used.. Its on default.

    Maybe one of the others can teach us something tonight about that Safety setting.
    I use my HI/LO alarms but dont know about AO/IO.





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    If you missed it, AO means turns off power to all outputs on a failure. IO means it turns off power to just the failed output.

    You kids nowadays!! Never reading the instructions, just plug the toys in and start pushing buttons!!

    And to the OP- I would suggest setting the safety for hi/lo as well. That way if something goes crazy and the temp gets over the set thresh hold, it will power down the unit and not cook your snake.
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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    If you missed it, AO means turns off power to all outputs on a failure. IO means it turns off power to just the failed output.

    You kids nowadays!! Never reading the instructions, just plug the toys in and start pushing buttons!!

    And to the OP- I would suggest setting the safety for hi/lo as well. That way if something goes crazy and the temp gets over the set thresh hold, it will power down the unit and not cook your snake.
    Yeah, you can never be TOO certain about things... That's like putting two animals together and saying, "Well, they've never fought before," and next thing you know... One gets killed by the other. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There would be nobody but myself to blame for the death of my snakes or my room catching ablaze. I will definitely look into setting a good temperature once I figure out how hot the tubs are getting inside. I think tonight I'll order a gun and have it sent tomorrow or the next day thanks to Prime, I just don't know which to settle down for! Hopefully it'll be good to go, but if not... even more flexwatt to buy, I'm so glad that stuff isn't awfully expensive.

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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    definitely need a temp gun. I have about 3/4 inch of substrate and I have my herpstat set to 97 to get a hot spot of 91 degrees on the substrate. One of my snakes will burrow down to the bottom of the tub where it's at 96-97 degrees. She keeps me worried but doesn't seem to hot for her. When she first started doing this I would check on her everyday.

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    Re: Herpstat 2 Questions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    If you missed it, AO means turns off power to all outputs on a failure. IO means it turns off power to just the failed output.

    You kids nowadays!! Never reading the instructions, just plug the toys in and start pushing buttons!!

    And to the OP- I would suggest setting the safety for hi/lo as well. That way if something goes crazy and the temp gets over the set thresh hold, it will power down the unit and not cook your snake.
    Ok so another words if Channel 1 goes bad it can just shut that one down instead of shutting down all output Channels Sauzo?



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