Mites

[Slither Seeker]

...I would not ever place a ball python in a pan of water especially with a lid. Especially a spider morph...

I understand your caution, yet water baths are a common practice for mites and trouble shedding though, so I'm not sure why you would say never, ever? my spiders were a little weak necked early on but quickly became robust with proper care and have not displayed signs of wobble. if I had any indication that they were having trouble keeping their head above water, I would discontinue it. the first time or two in the water bath I was pretty much by their side carefully watching to make sure they were not distressed. it's surprising how they have settled down and seem to tolerate it without resistance now. as for PAM, I am just more on the cautious side, it's certainly a very personal decision as to the trade offs of risking the potential of lethal side effects of a poison vs dealing with the potential of lethal side effects of mites.