Since this guy has had a couple meals now (assist fed) I decided to go a bit longer trying to get him to eat before doing it again I've tried f/t fuzzys and live hoppers (even left a live hopper in overnight and this morning he was moving arond his tub and the hopper was still there) but he just pays no attention to them so I've been doing more reading and came across people talking about braining fuzzys to get snakes to feed and since I'm stuck at work for a while longer I figured I'd see what people thought about this with nothing else working I'm about ready to try anything