lol I was talking about removing the perches in a T8. Phyllis is tricky to get out if she's wrapped around anything in the cage. As I'm drawing up plans for perches in my T8s it would definitely be tight on space. I could go 5", maybe 6" off the floor but under the RHP that leaves only 3.5"-4" between perch and heat panel. How close are the perches in your 14" high pro line?
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