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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

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    He does at times poke around at the screen lid in an attempt to escape and does move around when he isn't basking or in a hide. I have all four sides covered currently. I've seen a where people have started off a young python in an even more revealing 40 gal and it still eats, just not my guy. i do wonder if maybe the temps aren't ideal? They do stay around 85 in the air and above and I tested out all sorts of bulbs before I got him to go with my two UTH to keep it closer to 90, but most everything ended up being overkill. The ground temp on the bedding is fine, but the air can vary, which is where the thermostat probe is gauging. Should I be as worried about that ambient air temp on the warm side? Is that maybe becoming too hot paired with the UTH keeping the bedding warm?
    I've seen a few stories of snakes seemingly forever trying to get out of the Viv and the Viv temps were simply far too warm and the snake couldn't cool down enough . I'm not saying this applies in your case BUT it is a possibility ...




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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    I'm a big fan of "scenting" the air by letting the prey defrost close to the tank so they know what to expect.
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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    I'm a big fan of "scenting" the air by letting the prey defrost close to the tank so they know what to expect.
    I used to do that when my vivs were all house ...and it certainly does get them " in the mood for food" ... I don't do it now they are all more or less in one room simply as it can get 'scary' feeding the King snakes when they're in " murder- mode"


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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    I can only upload an image by URL and it is just on my phone, so I can't really give an image of it.

    I put the probe where it needs to be, it's been keeping the UTH at 90-91. I'll replace it when I have the money to. I might end up removing the second heater on the side when it warms up. I could remove it now but I would then have to go into readjusting temps again, and I think I'd prefer to change as little at this point in there as it is. I picked up a hide that was smaller and put a little moss in there, I covered part of the entrance to his log as well. I know they can get under stuff, he shoved himself behind the foam background at one point, haha. His constant poking around could be due to the heat, although I do see him bask next to the light now and then. The cool side is around the upper 70s.

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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    I'm a big fan of "scenting" the air by letting the prey defrost close to the tank so they know what to expect.
    I've been putting the paper towel it defrosted in over the lid and he'll notice it, but still no chance of eating.

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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

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    I've been putting the paper towel it defrosted in over the lid and he'll notice it, but still no chance of eating.
    ... after offering you've reheated with a hairdryer and immediately offered again , then repeat the process until it takes it ??




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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrislongdog View Post
    I've been putting the paper towel it defrosted in over the lid and he'll notice it, but still no chance of eating.
    ... after offering you've reheated with a hairdryer and immediately offered again , then repeat the process until it takes it ??




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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    I reheated it with hot water until it felt hot, and he would pick up the heat signature and follow it briefly but then end up ignoring it over and over. That's why I was wondering if live would work better since it'd keep the body heat for more than a few seconds. Since the breeder suggested live I assume he got live before I got him.

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    Re: Young snake won't take F/T, try live next?

    I did have a few feeding issues with my Bp. One thing I did was try getting rodents from differently places and different types as well. The other thing was a hairdryer and letting the scent percolate before I fed her, now she ether comes out of the tank and grabs dinner off me or lets me feed her while she is hiding. Try making sure the humidity is right as well.

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    I used a secondary tub to feed him in, and after about an hour of intervals of dark alone time and attempt to feed he took the LIVE last night!! He HATED it walking around but once I started to hold it close to his nose and followed him with it until he eventually nabbed it after a few tries here and there. He was awfully nervous of it. I think I could easily switch to f/t again, it's just that the live was able to hold the body temp while I followed him with it while the f/t would get cool. He's been sitting in his warm hide and digesting

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