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    My issue with GMOs aren't that actual genes of the organism - but that most GMOs on the market now are of the round up ready variety. GMO produce has much higher pesticide residues on them due to the way round up ready plants are produced.

    Pesticides kill things. I want as little of that on my food as possible.

    Oh and I find the practice of patenting living organisms that will reproduce on their own / the grains and other food stuffs that our species depends on to be immoral. So ya know... voting with dollars.
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    If you never want to trust your food supply again check out the Monsanto Corporation (they make Roundup *and* the Roundup Ready seeds).

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    Food, Digestion, GMO and more.

    Quote Originally Posted by piedlover79 View Post
    Yup. The liver converts sugar into fatty acids (fat) and then into the body for storage. Eating fat also leads to fat storage and heart disease.

    So much info out there is pushed by politics not science.
    I've seen recent reports suggesting that eating fat is good though , supposedly the body burns it more effectively than most other things and they're suggesting having butter rather than margarine , full milk rather than skimmed and frying with LARD !!??

    Another fallacy is this fear of cholesterol saying it causes heart attacks etc ....when there's good and bad cholesterol .

    It apparently also doesn't block arteries as we were told !


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    Yes the 'butter is back' movement...pushed by the dairy and meat lobby. Actual doctors still recommend against it. It's politics plain and simple.

    Here is a great article with some good sources: https://cspinet.org/eating-healthy/f.../big-fat-myths

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    Be careful about reading headlines and 'studies' without finding the source. Like the study that reported that lobsters don't feel pain when boiled...paid for by the Lobster Fisherman Association. I'm sure it wasn't bias at all. Now there are studies that claim it both ways.
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    Re: Food, Digestion, GMO and more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trisnake View Post
    Okay....

    Im not trying to get into an ideological war here but highqualityballz, maybe you should do some research as well. At least before telling people they don't know what they're talking about.

    The vast majority of studies on the topic have found the same thing; there is no significant difference in the health or rate of cancers of individuals eating strictly organic versus GMO. There is no significant difference in chemical make up or nutrient values between the two products. And many studies claiming otherwise have been found to be unsound or deeply flawed in their processes; one such flaw being that many people who dedicate themselves to strictly organic foods and products are health nuts to begin with, where as your average joe who eats regular priced GMO products may enjoy the occasional cigarette and probably doesn't frequent the gym as much as he should. Sample groups are a big part of the discrepancies.

    But to each their own. It really does come down to opinion, when there are so many contradicting studies. If people want to pay twice as much for an organic pear that's just as good as any other pear (in my opinion) then be my guest. If I end up dying from GMO induced cancer down the road (which I highly doubt) then that's my fault, and I'm okay with it.
    I disagree with literally all of this.

    1.The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) urges doctors to prescribe non-GMO diets for all patients. They cite animal studies showing organ damage, gastrointestinal and immune system disorders, accelerated aging, and infertility. Human studies show how genetically modified (GM) food can leave material behind inside us, possibly causing long-term problems.

    2.Numerous health problems increased after GMOs were introduced in 1996. The percentage of Americans with three or more chronic illnesses jumped from 7% to 13% in just 9 years

    3.Most GM crops are engineered to be “herbicide tolerant”―they deadly weed killer. Monsanto, for example, sells Roundup Ready crops, designed to survive applications of their Roundup herbicide.

    Between 1996 and 2008, US farmers sprayed an extra 383 million pounds of herbicide on GMOs. Overuse of Roundup results in “superweeds,” resistant to the herbicide. This is causing farmers to use even more toxic herbicides every year. Not only does this create environmental harm, GM foods contain higher residues of toxic herbicides. Roundup, for example, is linked with sterility, hormone disruption, birth defects, and cancer

    I can do this forever and show you multiple studies that prove gmo increases chances of cancer and other illnesses. Also theres an experiment they did with a family, that tested the whole families urine kids and adults and found numerous chemicals present, so they switched all their food to organic for a short time and all the chemical levels went do to little or none whatsoever. Nothing i hate more than the people that spread health advice that have very little to no knowledge. Your opinion means nothing when it comes to facts. Again please do RESEARCH before you speak, dont just go off 1 article monsanto probably wrote themselves.

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    Re: Food, Digestion, GMO and more.

    Quote Originally Posted by piedlover79 View Post
    If you never want to trust your food supply again check out the Monsanto Corporation (they make Roundup *and* the Roundup Ready seeds).
    Oh i know monsanto... Former farm girl

    Real world version of The Umbrella Corp in my eyes.
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    Re: Food, Digestion, GMO and more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I've seen recent reports suggesting that eating fat is good though , supposedly the body burns it more effectively than most other things and they're suggesting having butter rather than margarine , full milk rather than skimmed and frying with LARD !!??

    Another fallacy is this fear of cholesterol saying it causes heart attacks etc ....when there's good and bad cholesterol .

    It apparently also doesn't block arteries as we were told !


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    Correct. A diet high in healthy fats is optimal for overall health. Also for fat loss its shown that diets higher in healthy fats actually burn body fat better than low fat diets.

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    Monsanto is sooooooo evil! And no one seems to know/care. They are very much like Umbrella.

    Monsanto is now *literally* being brought to trial for 'Crimes against Humanity' at the Hague in the Netherlands.

    "The Organic Consumers Association (OCA), IFOAM International Organics, Navdanya, Regeneration International (RI), and Millions Against Monsanto, along with dozens of global food, farming, and environmental justice groups announced at the United Nations conference held recently in Paris that an international court of lawyers and judges will assess Monsanto’s criminal liability for their atrocious acts."

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    Quote Originally Posted by highqualityballz View Post
    Correct. A diet high in healthy fats is optimal for overall health. Also for fat loss its shown that diets higher in healthy fats actually burn body fat better than low fat diets.

    Healthy fats is key...not Lard.

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    Yes. Even the name sounds evil... ugh.
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