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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    snakes have "belly buttons"..... that's hysterical. Ok so the line is explained. What about the other two though


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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    If they're anything they're just minor scrapes, incredibly minor.

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    Last edited by Fraido; 10-14-2016 at 12:16 AM.
    Crawling back into the reptile scene once more!

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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    If they're anything they're just minor scrapes, incredibly minor.

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    Ok. But definitely getting rid of the one hide. Will replace it with a similar rock hide to the one he already has


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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Yea... no. You really didn't understand what I said.

    I did not have them before Deborah told me to get them.

    I got them as a temporary replacement while I fixed his actual tank. While her suggestion was to keep him in this, I still disagree that it is the only option. *eyeroll* And I'm allowed my own opinion on this. And I will continue to shovel my heels in on this because it's absolutely false that it is the only way to house your snake.

    It's EXACTLY like claiming that a captive bred fox belongs ONLY outside because his natural instincts. No. a captive bred fox can be raised indoors if enrichment is given and if outside is a crowded neighborhood with dogs. It's EXACTLY like saying there is only ONE way to raise a kid. Or a dog. Or a horse.

    But here we go. *gets out my popcorn.* I spoke out against a popular individual on this site who is knowledgeable in her own right however stubborn in her own way. I may not be able to ignore the people who are so fixated on repeating the last bit of information they heard that made sense that they would ignore all else. *munch munch munch*

    And then once I fixed his tank, which works just fine, I threw out the sharp edged plastic saucers I CUT MYSELF because they could HURT him.

    -_-

    But please. Do continue.


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    What’s with mentioning my name in every other post in the last 2 threads? Trust me as far as popularity goes I have been one of the least popular member on the forum since 2006 and I DO NOT care either way, I am not here for popularity.

    Here are some facts for you.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat and I have said it over and over again, however there is also an optimum PROVEN way for new owners that not only help with issues but also address possible issues before they arise.

    Do I keep my animals that way? NO I keep my animals with no hot spot 8 months of the year, I also do not provide hides. Would that work for a new INEXPERIENCE owner? NO.

    What makes the difference between knowing what works and is optimum and what does not? EXPERIENCE and I don’t mean owning 1 snake for 4 weeks or being a Youtube wannabee.

    Now when it comes to YOUR new current problem, if optimum hides had been provided this would not have happened, again optimum = solving issues and preventing issues to arise.

    I am done here so you can keep trying to bait me by continuing to mention my name I will not answer, I have already wasted enough time with this post.
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    As others have said, as time goes on you may experiment and solidify that there are numerous ways to care for your animal. I encourage experimentation, but you must be smart about it and use common sense.

    Decorative hides can be very enticing. One thing that is mandatory when choosing a new hide is safety. The first thing you do is inspect every square millimeter of the interior. If you can not reach any sharp edges with a Dremel tool or sandpaper then do not buy the hide.
    Snakes are curious and by nature and inspect everything. If any hide has tight crawl spaces within it, then stay away from it.

    No hide is better than a dangerous one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Yea... no. You really didn't understand what I said.
    Quote Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post

    I did not have them before Deborah told me to get them.

    I got them as a temporary replacement while I fixed his actual tank. While her suggestion was to keep him in this, I still disagree that it is the only option. *eyeroll* And I'm allowed my own opinion on this. And I will continue to shovel my heels in on this because it's absolutely false that it is the only way to house your snake.

    It's EXACTLY like claiming that a captive bred fox belongs ONLY outside because his natural instincts. No. a captive bred fox can be raised indoors if enrichment is given and if outside is a crowded neighborhood with dogs. It's EXACTLY like saying there is only ONE way to raise a kid. Or a dog. Or a horse.

    But here we go. *gets out my popcorn.* I spoke out against a popular individual on this site who is knowledgeable in her own right however stubborn in her own way. I may not be able to ignore the people who are so fixated on repeating the last bit of information they heard that made sense that they would ignore all else. *munch munch munch*

    And then once I fixed his tank, which works just fine, I threw out the sharp edged plastic saucers I CUT MYSELF because they could HURT him.

    -_-

    But please. Do continue.


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    Wow. Take a chill pill.

    I suggest the flower pot saucer because I personally know MULTIPLE people that use them and because they are dirt cheap. You said you had been worried about the lizard hide for DAYS but had to wait till you got paid. So I suggested the cheapest option for a hide your snake would LIKE and that would be SAFE. That way, ya know, you wouldn't have to leave something you thought was dangerous in with your beloved pet.

    Then you brought up another poster. My confusion was because I had absolutely no clue why she was being brought up as she had NOTHING to do with my initial post, my suggestion of a flower pot saucer had NOTHING to do with her. So yeah. I had no idea why you were harping on about her. I've known snake keepers who've used them long before I ever found this site. I used them for my lizards. When they are properly set up there are no sharp edges.

    Actually, I believe I even said there is nothing wrong with having a display tank. Just that they aren't optimal for hatchlings as they are so easily stressed out. An opinion I formed while working in exotics retail and dealing with dozens and dozens of juvenile BPs and based on the education and opinions of the small team of reptile vets that store used...
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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    I was hesitant before, when Deborah suggested it, and I used a temporary hide and after fixing his husbandry in his tank I had thrown the plastic saucers out. Going for showy because I see a lot of BP owners who use really pretty set ups. Like SuperMaryFace (and her hubby CinnamonToastKen) who met up with Brian. So I assume she knows what the heck she is talking about.


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    I was creating a time-stamp. Mention of her was for her benefit, because I was establishing that despite my disagreement with her, I DID use her idea for a temporary set up.

    Not sure why this is getting drama spitfire from that but whatever.... -_-


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    Please stay on-topic and respectful. If you are unable to do so, don't press send.

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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Still going to take a trip to the vet...



    I had to blow up the photo to see the small chip in it's scales.... Just a question, but what would could cause that? Does it go away? Is it normal? Does it hurt the snake?

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    Re: How to tell if hurt/stuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    I keep my animals with no hot spot 8 months of the year, I also do not provide hides. Would that work for a new INEXPERIENCE owner? NO.
    May I respectfully ask why? (Out of curiosity. No disrespect meant.)

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