She's got great color, Vaughn. How did you manage not to keep any of her babies? I'm not sure how many it will take before i can let one go. Sandiego is my male and he is pretty red. Not as red as some of the reddest I've seen, but he has good color -- came from Jodi Aherns' red line. We'll see what kind of babies he makes pretty soon, too, since Carmen laid her first clutch Friday night, just before the site got hacked.