Yeah, I talked to kris at Vital Exotics today and expects the male ive been looking at to top out around 7' with normal feedings. Still waiting to hear from the gal on the Platinum Tiger I was looking at but its a higher % SD. Kris' are about 37% SD 31% D where as this platinum Tiger is 50% SD and 6% D but it is a female vs Kris' is a male. And I watched a bunch of Cody's videos and sent him a PM but not sure if he is around or not. Thanks guys. And Gio where are you when I need you!!?? How is the little guy you got from Vital Exotics? That's one of the two people I've nailed it down to for a retic. Looking at white albino!!