So, what would you call this funky morph combo? Paradox super black? Paradox panda?

[Seven-Thirty]

Wow! That is really odd looking. That would be a *lot* of white to just be a ringer, but I suppose the ringer on a super black pastel might end up really strange.

I have to admit though that the bug eyes kinda creep me out. I've just produced a male black pastel pied and now I have to spend the next two years deciding if I'm going to breed him back to his black pastel pied momma or not...I really want a perfect Panda...but I'm worried about kinks, duckbill, and now bug eyes. Sigh.

The bug eyes aren't a normal problem. I think this particular snake's bug eyes are a result of the paradox; depending on what causes the paradox. I wouldn't call this snake a pied either considering super black pastel pieds tend to be very very high white which is what makes the panda pied to elusive. From what I understand, it's a gamble when it comes to the super cinnamons/super black pastels/8 balls in that the super form is either hit or miss. Apparently the kinking is somewhat relatively rare but still entirely possible. I've seen those clutches go around 60/40 with 60% being no kinking. There are, I think, 2-3 super cinnamon/super black pastel/8 ball clutches this year on youtube but they were all parthenogenesis clutches which usually results in deformities anyway.