Super pastel with an apparent wobble?

[pixiepup]

I've had my girl Pandy for a week now on Sunday, only held her long enough after the expo I got her from to nab this pic



I fed her on Thursday, and was surprised to see her UPSIDE DOWN while eating. I was incredibly confused and I still am! She also wobbles her head as she moves and appears to sleep with a tilt. Do other BPs occasionally have the wobble? She acts perfectly normal in every other way and is incredibly friendly and calm, she just...seems to have the wobble?

[enginee837]

Some morphs have a genetic neurological kwirk that is commonly referred to as wobble. It can range from hardly noticeable at all to full on corkscrewing. This typically presents itself when feeding or stressed.
With that said, I do not believe pastel or it's super form have the wobble. Unless the animal in question has another Gene you are unaware of this is likely not wobble.
Also, I believe the genes that have the wobble trait are all Co dominant which means you should see the gene on the animal as there are no recessive or het versions of them.

[pixiepup]

Some morphs have a genetic neurological kwirk that is commonly referred to as wobble. It can range from hardly noticeable at all to full on corkscrewing. This typically presents itself when feeding or stressed.
With that said, I do not believe pastel or it's super form have the wobble. Unless the animal in question has another Gene you are unaware of this is likely not wobble.
Also, I believe the genes that have the wobble trait are all Co dominant which means you should see the gene on the animal as there are no recessive or het versions of them.

Yeah, that's why I'm majorly confused! I might be entirely wrong, I'm just very surprised to see her do these things. Is it really impossible for a snake to just...be that way, without genetics playing a role? I'm genuinely curious.

[AbsoluteApril]

Sometimes exposure to chemicals or being over heated can cause neurological issues as well

[brianzor]

If you have the ability, contact the breeder you bought her from and find out what the sire and dam were. The wobble is frequently seen in morphs with spider genetics.

[redshepherd]

It's very possible that there was neurological damage caused by overheating either during shipping to you, or during incubation.
My lesser x butter has a wobbly thing going on too, ever since I picked him out of the shipment box as a hatchling, and he's definitely not one of the wobble morphs, so I learned that this is a possibility. It has improved with time, better now than when he was a hatchling.

[cchardwick]

I know the head wobble is common in the Spider and Champagne morphs but I'm not sure its limited to just those two genes. I've never heard of it in a super pastel, although I would be interested to see if either of the parents had Champagne or Spider in them, perhaps somehow it crossed over to their offspring and is maybe not 100% connected to those genes. I'm also wondering if it could be heterozygous for a recessive trait that could be the culprit. I saw a Champagne baby in the pet store and it was so wobbly it was upside down just trying to crawl around.

[OhhWatALoser]

I know the head wobble is common in the Spider and Champagne morphs but I'm not sure its limited to just those two genes. I've never heard of it in a super pastel, although I would be interested to see if either of the parents had Champagne or Spider in them, perhaps somehow it crossed over to their offspring and is maybe not 100% connected to those genes. I'm also wondering if it could be heterozygous for a recessive trait that could be the culprit. I saw a Champagne baby in the pet store and it was so wobbly it was upside down just trying to crawl around.

We would have spider lines that don't wobble if that was the case.

[CloudtheBoa]

If she only did that while eating it's unlikely it's a wobble. Snakes do sometimes eat upside down, and the "wobbling" you're seeing is likely just the snake's muscles straining as it swallows its meal. If she's doing this outside of eating that's another story, though.

[Albert Clark]

THIS ^ ^ ^ ^. Because swallowing is a major reflexive action it certainly could be as a hatchling, they don't really have great muscular control and thus strain and appear wobbly during it.