Spider Ball Python Wobble?

[KingWheatley]

What is it, exactly?

My little Wheatley is a spider morph. I've been watching videos about it, and people say it's very serious... Wheatley kind of wobbles a bit, but hasn't gone upside down or started shaking. He seems to be fine as far as striking out at his prey.

Do snakes have a natural small wobble to them? Or is this a clear sign of this "wobble?"

Is it a muscular control issue? Is there any other signs associated with this that is detrimental to the snake's health? Is there anything I can do to help/prevent it?

[KingWheatley]

https://imgur.com/gallery/NPDFG



Hopefully this posts. It should be a gif of Wheatley..

[piedlover79]

The 'wobble' is neurological and it varies widely from spider to spider. Some have little to no evidence of it at all, others shake and corkscrew out of control when they get too excited. For the *most* part wobble doesn't effect a snakes ability to lead a full life in captivity.

From the gif it looks like a very minimal wobble going on. Nothing to worry about.

[enginee837]

In my opinion based on observation people worry more about wobble than the spiders do. I would have to guess but to them the world just gets a little shakey sometimes.

[Seven-Thirty]

The wobble is a neurological disorder that is characterized by, what I consider, a difficulty centering themselves. The wobble is only really manifests themselves when their head is not on the ground. When the head is on the ground, you wouldn't even know there was a wobble. It comes with the spider morph and is not a result of inbreeding nor can it be bred out. As others have pointed out, the severity varies from snake to snake. Regardless, the wobble has no known ill effects other than it makes feeding a bit hard sometimes. Snakes with a wobble will still thrive, eat, poop, shed, and breed like any other ball python. The original spider was thriving in the wild and as we all know, the wild is the most unforgiving place there is. The wobble has no ill effect on the snake and anyone who tells you otherwise has an opinionated view on the spider and the wobble. The facts are there and surprisingly a lot of people choose to ignore them because of their own opinion. Given, this entire rant is also my own opinion but I like to think it has roots in facts. XD



Some education on the spider gene and its wobble.

[melcvt00]

As I keep seeing posts on this....is it cerebellar hypoplasia?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Can you post a close up (still image of your snake) whole body and head clearly visible?

[KingWheatley]

Can you post a close up (still image of your snake) whole body and head clearly visible?

This is is the only current one right now. I'll update tomorrow.



This is one isn't as recent.



And this one was taken the day I bought him two weeks ago

[Yzmasmom]

The guy we rescued Yzma from said she has no wobble. She totally does. But it doesn't effect her. She started turning her head upside down when she went to get the rat we were dangling the other night, but she's fine. She's also recently started sleeping with her head on its side. It's kind of adorable. I want to get her a little silk pillow, hahahaha.h

[chrid16371]

Usually you will see more of a wobble in stressful situations and feeding time. You can barley notice the wobble on my killer bee (super pastel, spider) unless it's feeding time. My champagne het toffee barley has a wobble also but it doesn't get worse when eating and even when he arrived in the mail his wobble was the same as always, he just has a barley noticeable wobble no matter the situation. The funny thing is that these 2 snakes have a faster and more accurate strike then my other snakes without wobbles, they have never missed so far. I hope they stay this way bc a slight wobble can turn into a bad wobble with age, also a bad wobble can get better with age.

I mentioned my champagne bc the spider gene isn't the only gene that has a wobble. Here is a link to other wobble genes in case your curious and it has a lot of other useful and interesting information.
http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php


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