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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by Deborah
Well no wonder, mouse fuzzies are colubrids food even out of the egg they take something much bigger, rat crawler or hopper mice.
Basically at this point your BP utilize the entire prey (which is way too small) for growth leaving nothing to be eliminated.
Start feeding the appropriate size prey equal the girth size until your BP reaches 500 grams and your BP will start to grow, shed and defecate.
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As I said, he is very tiny. He is as big around as the mouse fuzzie. I'm not joking. He has grown a small bit and has actually pooped now. Finally. Today he is getting weighed before I feed him, but as of right now he still looks as big around as the mouse fuzzie. Once he's bigger I'm going to be switching to rats if I can. But my current supplier doesn't have rat fuzzies...
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I feed him every 5 days.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by GoingPostal
Mouse fuzzies are too small ever for a ball python. Do you have a scale to see what he weighs? I start my young snakes around 100 grams on rat pups for example. Weaned or small adult mice would be fine also.
Hm... Maybe these are actually mouse pups...? They are as big around as he is, although the box calls them mice fuzzies
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
What is the weight of your snake? How old is the snake?
For your snake not to be able to take anything bigger than a fuzzy it would need to be smaller than an average hatchling out of the egg.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
As Deb mentioned you really need to try and gauge the appropriate sized feeder that your little guy should be eating. No wonder it took him so long to poop.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by Deborah
What is the weight of your snake? How old is the snake?
For your snake not to be able to take anything bigger than a fuzzy it would need to be smaller than an average hatchling out of the egg.
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its as big around as he is. Although, judging from the store I got him from, it's both possible that A.) he was starved and not as round as he should have been. And B.) the mouse fuzzies are not actually mouse fuzzies.
they are as long as my pinkie, and as thick as my thumb. And Wheatley has been looking very healthy lately. I got him maybe two weeks old at the very least, 4 weeks as the most. He's growing, and he HAS pooped now and is eating and drinking just fine.
https://goo.gl/images/UjNvcC
the particular size of food mouse in question is the fifth one in the line.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by ballpythonluvr
As Deb mentioned you really need to try and gauge the appropriate sized feeder that your little guy should be eating. No wonder it took him so long to poop.
I'm a little worried as I'm always getting mixed advice. I'm shutting out anything I've heard from the store that screwed me over and put me in a money hole with bad advice. But I'm unclear as to what is actually "harmful" versus what is simply opinion... Educated or not.
not referring to what help I've received here, by the way. My adventures on Google is what I'm meaning.
Last edited by KingWheatley; 09-10-2016 at 08:57 PM.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by KingWheatley
I'm a little worried as I'm always getting mixed advice. I'm shutting out anything I've heard from the store that screwed me over and put me in a money hole with bad advice. But I'm unclear as to what is actually "harmful" versus what is simply opinion... Educated or not.
not referring to what help I've received here, by the way. My adventures on Google is what I'm meaning.
The easiest way is to weigh your snake, calculate 15 to 20% of his weight for the proper sized feeder.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by Deborah
What is the weight of your snake? How old is the snake?
Last night was feeding night. He pooped again, just before feeding, and the poop was brown this time. Which is less worrying.
Since I got him, he has noticeably grown in girth and in length. He was as big around as the mouse fuzzie all the way up to the second feeding (12 days after I got him).
Last night's feeding, I gave him two mouse fuzzies. I held it up to his middle, and the mouse was smaller this time than his middle... And lacking any means at that time of night to run to a store and get a frozen rat/mouse big enough for him at that point, and also because what you said was worrying me that he was still not being fed enough, I made a quick decision to thaw and feed him two... I really hope this wont be detrimental for him.
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by KingWheatley
Last night was feeding night. He pooped again, just before feeding, and the poop was brown this time. Which is less worrying.
Since I got him, he has noticeably grown in girth and in length. He was as big around as the mouse fuzzie all the way up to the second feeding (12 days after I got him).
Last night's feeding, I gave him two mouse fuzzies. I held it up to his middle, and the mouse was smaller this time than his middle... And lacking any means at that time of night to run to a store and get a frozen rat/mouse big enough for him at that point, and also because what you said was worrying me that he was still not being fed enough, I made a quick decision to thaw and feed him two... I really hope this wont be detrimental for him.
Again what is the weight of your snake?
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Re: Possibly Constipated?
 Originally Posted by Deborah
Again what is the weight of your snake?
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Ah. Sorry, I haven't answered this. I got so caught up answering the other stuff.
The short end of it is that I don't know. I don't have a tool to measure his weight accurately. And while this may be the most accurate way to measure the proper food, going by the girth and not feeding them anything larger than the widest part of their body is actually a good method that I've seen tested and done by successful BP owners with content snakes.
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