Not looking good.. Deformed hatchlings

[Galaxygirl]

Hi folks,
it's been a while since someone posted something, so i'm gonna share my experience on this subject.

I'm pretty sure, that the shark mouth deformation mostly is caused by humidity issues.
I had a Bumbelbelly x Ivory clutch (3 eggs) in 2014, that had the same problem. 2 of the animals peeked out of the egg, the third one died in the egg. The eggs dried out for about a day or two, because i didn't put the top cover of the box on correctly, so most of the humidity got lost too quickly.
The babys would have been 2 gorgeous Bumblebellys and one SpiderIvory (possible BumblebeeIvory).

This year i had a BlackPastel het. Albino x AlbinoSpider clutch with the same incubation issue. I check the incubator every one or two days. at about week 3 into incubation i noticed that the eggs were dipping and then noticed that all the water in the box was gone (to this day i don't know why, all other clutches were ok). I immediately refilled the box with water and the eggs recoiled a bit, but not to the original form. 2 days ago on day 58 of incubation i cut the eggs just a tiny bit to see if there is anything alive in those eggs. One day later a Classic het. Albino and a AlbinoBlackbee were peeking out. Sadly both with the deformed/way to short jaw. The 2 remaining animals are still sitting in the egg and haven't peeked out jet. Over the night, the first 2 that peeked out thoght it was a good idea to leave the egg. The Classic strangled itself with its ambilical cord and was discovered dead in the morning. The AlbinoBlackbee was still allive. I seperated the AlBb to an other plastic box with wet tissue on the bottom. At this point the animal still hat it's ambilical cord attatched to the yolk that remained in the egg. I honestly expected the animal to be dead in the evening, but supringly it somehow cut the amilical cord and its belly closed up. Then i noticed severe wobbling with the animal and of course the way to short lower jaw. Right now, i'm waiting for the other 2 to climb out of their egg, but i expect them to have the same deformation. I'll keep you guys updated.

In 2014 i've had a second clutch with 2 deformed babys. But i think that's something for an other thread, because they didn't have the shark mouth. But that was the most horrific clutch i've ever hatched. Severe head deformation + belly grown together + heart beating outside of the body. I took pictures and a clip of that, but honestly try to avoid looking at it cause it disturbs me too much.

When i finally figure out how to upload pics here i'll post some of them

I have an update on Shark Mouth... So being that I believed this deformity was environmental or some freakish anomaly and not related to the genetics, I bred the same mother again to a different male this time, and as the babies hatched, I've found that only 1 of the hatchlings do not have shark mouth. Everything else from other mother's are hatching fine in the same incubator. So this is the second time in a row for me the same mother has given me shark mouth babies. She had healthy babies with her previous owner apparently, so I don't know what to think. Maybe shark mouth can have a genetic aspect to it, and also be environmental in other cases.

This little sweetheart came from the boob egg, very underdeveloped head with shark mouth, and severe kinking. I thought he would pass on his own but unfortunately was humanely euthanized via pithing.




Bumblebee with a slight shark mouth. It looks worse from the side than from chin up view. This deformity seems way less severe than the previous clutch shown on the first page of this thread, so I am hoping it will make it. From the second photo's view it almost looks like he has a normal lower jaw.

[dr del]

Were the same genes involved in the second breeding?

( I know the mothers will be )

[Galaxygirl]

Were the same genes involved in the second breeding?

( I know the mothers will be )

Similar! First sire was Pastel Lesser Spider, second sire was Enchi Lesser Spider

[dr del]

Before giving up on her I'd be heck of a tempted to try a combo without lesser or spider it ( though to be honest I'm more thinking spider ).

[Asherah]

Before giving up on her I'd be heck of a tempted to try a combo without lesser or spider it ( though to be honest I'm more thinking spider ).

Spider does seem to be a common thread here on all 4 clutches.

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