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    What is the current status of reticulated pythons in the USA?

    Just wondering if you can freely breed and ship reticulated pythons? If there are regulations does it include the dwarfs as well? Thinking about breeding them only if I can ship them...


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    Today you can only ship retics interstate if you were a USARK member as of 04/08/2015.

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    Seriously? So US Ark is controlling who ships and who doesn't ship?? US Ark has that much power?


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    No USARK does not control anything the government does USARK has been fighting for your right by engaging in a very expensive lawsuit to try to protect our rights as keepers.

    http://usark.org/library/lawsuit-fws...appeal-dkt-71/

    http://usark.org/2015-blog/7182/
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    Soooooo, can I find someone that's grandfathered in and have him ship for me? Sounds like the only way I could breed is to find someone grandfathered in that would buy all my babies and put them up for sale themselves... A current USArk membership doesn't work?


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    I guess what this is doing is keeping any one new to the snake hobby from breeding retics, I guess that was the intention of the law?


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    Re: What is the current status of reticulated pythons in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    I guess what this is doing is keeping any one new to the snake hobby from breeding retics, I guess that was the intention of the law?
    It's more complicated than that.

    For years Animal activist (PETA, the Human Society of America) have been trying to go forward with their ultimate agenda which is a ban on pet ownership as a whole, the first major law they tried to pass was HR669 which was to ban exotic ownership (anything from BP to betta to ferrets to parakeet would have been affected) that did not work (people fought this together) so they decided to divide and try to conquer choosing to attack a smaller target starting with reptiles, giants in particular, and of course the issue and misinformation regarding Florida invasive species have been a great help to them.

    While many people believe it only has to do with large snakes and therefore those laws does not concern them it has to do with a bigger picture.
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    Re: What is the current status of reticulated pythons in the USA?

    Honestly these questions should have been asked before a retic is ever purchased. There are a lot of laws regulating the species at state and local levels and they lacy act controls it at a federal level. I am a strong proponent of everyone should have a retic if they want and can keep one, but due research is needed in all matters. I am glad you're hitting the forums up for as much information as possible, I just wish it had been prior to purchase.

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    Re: What is the current status of reticulated pythons in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    It's more complicated than that.

    For years Animal activist (PETA, the Human Society of America) have been trying to go forward with their ultimate agenda which is a ban on pet ownership as a whole, the first major law they tried to pass was HR669 which was to ban exotic ownership (anything from BP to betta to ferrets to parakeet would have been affected) that did not work (people fought this together) so they decided to divide and try to conquer choosing to attack a smaller target starting with reptiles, giants in particular, and of course the issue and misinformation regarding Florida invasive species have been a great help to them.

    While many people believe it only has to do with large snakes and therefore those laws does not concern them it has to do with a bigger picture.
    It's way more complicated than just that as well. This may be what drives the additions onto the lacy act and the pure non sense going on, but the lacy act itself is very complex and very much needed for animal conservation on a global scale. It sought to add protection to animals not protected at the local level in countries that are highly exported out of. It made it illegal to import certain animals so the effects of the pet trade would be less felt on wild populations of species in decline.


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    Re: What is the current status of reticulated pythons in the USA?

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    Seriously? So US Ark is controlling who ships and who doesn't ship?? US Ark has that much power?
    No. The federal judge in Washington, DC who is hearing the case has that much power. After USFWS enacted the ban USARK filed a preliminary injunction in court to have the ban's implementation delayed until their case was heard. For various reasons the judge granted the injunction but only for USARK members as of the filing date.

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