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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

    Quote Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi View Post
    This is just an assumption, but Im pretty sure she talked them from "no snakes" to "one snake". thats a compromise for a group of girls who are afraid of or just dont like snakes. And it seems like OP accepted that compromise, but now this unplanned situation has come up. The roommates probably think this is just a plan to bring more animals home than agreed to. Thats how people who live with others who rescue animals have to think.

    Again, not saying this is the case, or that the OP is a hoarder or anything, its just me trying to see the situation from both ends. If these were the terms everyone agreed to, it would be wrong to just say screw it, i'll do what i want.
    Yes. One of them doesn't mind but the others don't react well to any sort of reptile or amphibian. Or most insects, for that matter. I did indeed talk them from "No snakes!" to "One. If I am convinced it can't escape from whatever contraption you put it in. But you will keep it away from me and I will not look at it or what it eats."


    I have a cat and now the python, which they did just give me because they don't have room for her right now. The other animals in the house don't belong to me. Rocking the boat on this would be unadvisable. This is their place, I just stay here and help with bills.

    I cut down the heat pad and have the hotspot down to 90. I have ordered another thermostat for the second heat mat on one day shipping to put on the cool side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted_Angel View Post
    Yes. One of them doesn't mind but the others don't react well to any sort of reptile or amphibian. Or most insects, for that matter. I did indeed talk them from "No snakes!" to "One. If I am convinced it can't escape from whatever contraption you put it in. But you will keep it away from me and I will not look at it or what it eats."


    I have a cat and now the python, which they did just give me because they don't have room for her right now. The other animals in the house don't belong to me. Rocking the boat on this would be unadvisable. This is their place, I just stay here and help with bills.

    I cut down the heat pad and have the hotspot down to 90. I have ordered another thermostat for the second heat mat on one day shipping to put on the cool side.
    Ha! I was pretty spot on!


    Im not sure how well a heating pad would do to heat a tub up 10 degrees. Im not sure about a tub but I dont think it would do anything to a tank. Your best bet would probably be to put a lamp over it, a desk lamp would do, as long as its raised up enough to not melt the plastic. I figure a regular desk lamp and bulb would spread the heat across the length of the tub and evenly raise the heat inside. Of course monitoring it to find the sweet spot to hit 80 or whatever youre looking for.

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

    Ok well it's a completely different story if it's their house, their house their rules. I was under the impression that you all were on a lease on renting an apartment or house. Compromise is the number one thing either way and at least they met you half way.

    HanabiraAsashi I didn't state she should start an argument bc the she pays bills. Also stated about talking about paying more to help compromise. Number one reason I don't have Facebook or belong to many internet groups, except this one bc of the great members, is bc people automatically think the worse and add there own words in people's posts and can't hear the tone and mindset in which it was stated. I'm a very positive polite person and would never try to put someone in a situation that could potentially hurt them. Just wanted to make that clear so no one else takes my post the wrong way.

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    It wasnt really directed at you, at least 3 people pretty much said "Just do it anyway".. i just wanted to voice that it probably isnt really that simple, and in most cases, its a real jerk thing to do.

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

    Quote Originally Posted by HanabiraAsashi View Post
    It wasnt really directed at you, at least 3 people pretty much said "Just do it anyway".. i just wanted to voice that it probably isnt really that simple, and in most cases, its a real jerk thing to do.
    I would argue in most cases it doesn't matter and not a jerk thing to do. I would agree with you on this case because the roommates own the house but in an apartment where you both pay rent and the snake would live in your room I don't think it is out of the question and jerk is not the word I would describe a person that adopts the snake but rather the roommates for imposing sanctions on their space.

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

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    I would argue in most cases it doesn't matter and not a jerk thing to do. I would agree with you on this case because the roommates own the house but in an apartment where you both pay rent and the snake would live in your room I don't think it is out of the question and jerk is not the word I would describe a person that adopts the snake but rather the roommates for imposing sanctions on their space.

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    It does matter actually. You still have to be considerate of the other people you rent with, just because you pay a share doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want. Unless you own the place and you rent it to the other tenants. I didnt say she was a jerk for adopting a snake in need, i simply said that those saying that she should go back in the agreement of one snake and just do whatever she wants because she pays bills would be a jerk thing to do. Its just asking for roommate issues, and no one wants there to be issues at home, why create them?

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

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    It does matter actually. You still have to be considerate of the other people you rent with, just because you pay a share doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want. Unless you own the place and you rent it to the other tenants. I didnt say she was a jerk for adopting a snake in need, i simply said that those saying that she should go back in the agreement of one snake and just do whatever she wants because she pays bills would be a jerk thing to do. Its just asking for roommate issues, and no one wants there to be issues at home, why create them?
    This, all of this.

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

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    It does matter actually. You still have to be considerate of the other people you rent with, just because you pay a share doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want. Unless you own the place and you rent it to the other tenants. I didnt say she was a jerk for adopting a snake in need, i simply said that those saying that she should go back in the agreement of one snake and just do whatever she wants because she pays bills would be a jerk thing to do. Its just asking for roommate issues, and no one wants there to be issues at home, why create them?
    You have to be considerate in public spaces but in your own personal room they should not have control over how you live. Especially if they will likely not see, hear, smell, or have to deal with anything about the animal. Again, it makes sense for a dog or cat or another free roaming animal or if you were doing something illegal in your personal space then I would agree with you, but a roommate giving rules for a caged animal that has no sound, that very seldomly smells, that wont be out in public spaces much is ridiculous to me. Even the fact that they had a rule in the first place (if you both rented and if there snakes are in your room) is ridiculous to me. Yes, you should be considerate to roommates but i would argue this should only be towards shared spaces or if your personal space overflows to shared (smell/ sound) but if it's not bothering and they don't interact with it at all then there is nothing to be considerate of. Especially since OP (if they were a shared roommate) would merely be fostering the snake and not keeping the baby. Another point to keep in mind is being overly considerate to a controlling roommate can cause just as much dissention as not being considerate at all. Either way I don't really think it's fair to call people names for this scenario and I think keeping the snake for a couple weeks was a viable solution

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

    If the rule was agreed upon, someone is fearful/uncomfortable with having a snake in their house, and it's THEIR (roommates) house, there should be no discussion about it.

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    Re: Unexpected development. New ball Python.

    If the op had a lease with them then maybe a compromise could be made such as allowing the other roommates have something that they previously agreed they could not but unfortunately this is not the case. The op is on someone else's property so she has no say in what's allowed and what is not. The roommates were kind enough to give her a roof over her head and went from no snake to 1 snake, that's more than generous.

    It would not be wise to sneak something in. There was just a recent post of a kid who snuck a snake in to his parents house, in which he lived, and we all know how what his consequences were. The thing is these people are not her parents so the consequences could be more extreme such as being kicked out. Even if they shared a lease and she snuck another snake in the roommates could leave and she would have to pay all the bills and if she couldn't then she could be kicked out by the landlord. In either situation it would not if be wise to go behind someone's back.

    Advice for the OP is since you received the snake for free you could find a breeder or a rescue and give it to them and you won't be out any money. If you bought extra supplies for this one they can be either used for the carpet python or as back up. It's always good to have back up!

    Other then that this thread has taken a turn for the worse and there isn't much else that can be said.

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