I think my ball python is bored

[Rob]

Bovine Feces!

Pet or breeder, the minimum standards for care are the same. I know pet owners who breed their snakes, and I know breeders with hundreds of snakes who look at all of them as pets...

well this thread was a fun read. Again slim nails it on the head.


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[chrid16371]

Actually there is plenty of sources on the internet that say your bp cage should be 1 1/4 the size of your bp. Obviously this isn't needed but I'm just saying I can see how someone stumble across other "rules of thumb". My super pastel can fully stretch out in his 48" v400 and there's still a little more room, my killer bee when I got her could in her v211 but now she's a few inches longer, the ivory I'm getting in a few days has been in a 48" cage for the past 6 months and he can fully stretch out so I'm putting him in a T10. They are cluttered decent and They all eat great and utilize the space they have. My super pastel actually didn't start eating consistently until I moved him from the v211 to the v400. Will it work with some, yes of course but most it will not.

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[Asherah]

Bovine Feces!

Why have I never thought of this terminology? I'm stealing it. It's mine now. ;-)

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[JoshSloane]

Actually there is plenty of sources on the internet that say your bp cage should be 1 1/4 the size of your bp. Obviously this isn't needed but I'm just saying I can see how someone stumble across other "rules of thumb". My super pastel can fully stretch out in his 48" v400 and there's still a little more room, my killer bee when I got her could in her v211 but now she's a few inches longer, the ivory I'm getting in a few days has been in a 48" cage for the past 6 months and he can fully stretch out so I'm putting him in a T10. They are cluttered decent and They all eat great and utilize the space they have. My super pastel actually didn't start eating consistently until I moved him from the v211 to the v400. Will it work with some, yes of course but most it will not.

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Listen to whatever you want on the Internet. You can always find a site that will tell you whatever you want to hear. All that I can offer is my perspective after keeping reptiles successfully for decades.

[chrid16371]

Listen to whatever you want on the Internet. You can always find a site that will tell you whatever you want to hear. All that I can offer is my perspective after keeping reptiles successfully for decades.

Like I said I can see why people come across these "rules of thumb" which obviously is incorrect information. Never once did I agree that you should keep them in that size enclosure.

For some reason I have had herps that like larger enclosures. Like I said about my male super pastel wouldn't eat consistently till I moved him to enclosure twice the size of his old one. My friends Ivory that I'm buying was the same way. My 275g killer bee is fine in her 24x24x14 enclosure but that's not that big IMO. 2 of my Leo's ive had for a long time have there own 40 breeders bc they wouldn't eat in there 20 gallon, instantly they started eating once I moved them to bigger cages and when I tried to switch them back they went off feed again so I moved them back. Now my hatchlings and juvies are in a rack and are happy with there smaller spaces. Just depends on the individual herp.

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