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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Since I don't want to make a new topic, I'll add a live feeding question in here:

    I just got my bp a small rat, and while usually he slams them within 3 secs (with the exception of being in shed, where he just balls up/refuses to strike) he's been watching this rat scamper around the enclosure for 30 mins now, and looks obviously hungry. He is licking the air, following the rat around with his head, and is in the S shaped striking position, and even... yawning? but still hasn't struck. Just backed into the corner waiting for the rat to come closer, but it won't.

    A few minutes ago he stretched out and attempted to follow the rat with his head even closer but it just ran out of reach and he retreated back into S shape in his corner again.

    Should I just take the rat out and wait another day or two? Or monitor the situation for another hour?

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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Quote Originally Posted by vmachina View Post
    Since I don't want to make a new topic, I'll add a live feeding question in here:

    I just got my bp a small rat, and while usually he slams them within 3 secs (with the exception of being in shed, where he just balls up/refuses to strike) he's been watching this rat scamper around the enclosure for 30 mins now, and looks obviously hungry. He is licking the air, following the rat around with his head, and is in the S shaped striking position, and even... yawning? but still hasn't struck. Just backed into the corner waiting for the rat to come closer, but it won't.

    A few minutes ago he stretched out and attempted to follow the rat with his head even closer but it just ran out of reach and he retreated back into S shape in his corner again.

    Should I just take the rat out and wait another day or two? Or monitor the situation for another hour?
    Sounds like he's fasting? I'd say offer it to him again in a day or so.

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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon14 View Post
    I think it was interpreted as shoving the tongs down its mouth.
    It was interpreted that way because it was written that way. And in such a way that it sounded like you were advising that the tongs be shoved in the rats mouth before the snake even had a chance to hit.


    Quote Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll View Post
    How is that bad advice!!?
    And even if you did mean after the snake strikes, I still don't think it's a great idea to introduce a metal object into a snake / rat fight. Lots can go wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll View Post
    Bite the tongs instead of the snake.SMH real bad advice -.-
    Puncture the snake with the tongs instead of getting them in the rat's pie hole. It only takes one time....SMH



    Quote Originally Posted by Nitewolfie View Post
    Sounds like he's fasting?
    Sounds like he's ambush hunting...badly maybe, but still. Fasting snakes are usually not interested at all.
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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitewolfie View Post
    I've had frozen in my fridge(just had to hide it from certain people in the house), i don't like the thought of just them dying like that I guess? Not sure, could be also b/c I don't know how to do it? I've been told "just put them in a baggie and in the freezer"
    Don't put rats or mice in the freezer alive to freeze to death. You either have to break there neck (which I couldn't do) or make a co2 chamber. All you do is get a regular paintball tank and paintball remote line and a tub big enough for how many you want to do at once and run the remote line into the tub by putting a hole in the side at the bottom and put some silicon or epoxy around the edge of the line so you have an air tight seal and to keep it from falling out then you put a small air hole toward the top of the tub so the co2 can push the air out. Then you just lay down some paper towels and put rodents in and slowly turn on the remote line and they will lay down and fall asleep and then you turn the co2 on little more to flood the chamber and your done. It only takes about 2-3 minutes to do one small rat. I have my home made chamber still since I was trying to get my male to eat since he wasnt eating regularly and he was on f/t so I was going to try pre killed so I made my own chamber and he didn't eat any of the ones I gassed but I froze them and he eventually ended up eating them. So now I have a co2 chamber for no reason lol

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    "It was interpreted that way because it was written that way. And in such a way that it sounded like you were advising that the tongs be shoved in the rats mouth before the snake even had a chance to hit."

    "Puncture the snake with the tongs instead of getting them in the rat's pie hole. It only takes one time....SMH"


    Someone will actually puncture a snake's skin by gently putting tongs inside a rat's mouth. Lmao SMH
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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    And even if you did mean after the snake strikes, I still don't think it's a great idea to introduce a metal object into a snake / rat fight. Lots can go wrong.
    Well, using a chopstick (most likely cheaply made) can easily be knawed in half by a decent sized rat, and also could introduce sharp splinters as well. In my opinion, using some thing more sturdy such as metal tongs would be better than using wooden chopsticks as a rat cannot bit through it. I do see your point about introducing something that could potentially puncture the snake, but a chopstick could do just the same.


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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Quote Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll View Post
    Awesome contribution to the discussion. So you're like what, 9 years old? Don't worry, some day you'll be able to speak with adults just like a big boy.
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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon14 View Post
    but a chopstick could do just the same

    As always, you're mileage may vary...
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    Re: Question about feeding live?

    Ok big boy

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    Was gona make a comment to be nice till I saw the "ok big boy"... lol
    Anyway, I don't want to make a new thread
    I have a BP that hasn't eaten since november(not easy watching them and typing this btw)
    I have a small live in his enclosure right now, he's been in the strike position for a while, been looking interested in it, etc. 'Cept when the small rat gets close to his face he freaks out/gets scared? Never had him do so before and he's never been bitten or anything by a rat, er while I have had him at least(about a year now)
    any ideas to help? i've been told he eats f/t, but never had any success on feeding him f/t.

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