You can get a 4x8 sheet of 1/2 inch PVC from home depot $50-$80 depending on where you live. You could build the same exact cage as a t8 for half the cost of an AP cage with shipping. Actually you could build a bigger cage then a t8 with a 4x8 sheet. I'm actually trying to decide whether or not I want to buy a t8 ap cage with divider for my leopard geckos and then another for when my killer bee grows up. All depends if I have the time on my hands to build them. I'll probably just spend the extra and buy the t8s, its a lot cheaper then the vision v400 I bought for my super pastel.