Bought a new ball python, he came with a contract agreement, need advice.

[bcr229]

I don't know about the "fungibility" of snakes and whether that last part is true or not, but a quick Craigslist search in my area always reveals any number of ball pythons people are selling or "rehoming"; most of them quite young, so clearly someone got an animal that could live decades, and then lost interest in less than a year or two.

A lot of those are breeders selling off inexpensive single-gene critters locally since the cost of shipping is high. The rest seem to be big box pet store normals that are overpriced and come with a tank and heat lamp.

[Coluber42]

A lot of those are breeders selling off inexpensive single-gene critters locally since the cost of shipping is high. The rest seem to be big box pet store normals that are overpriced and come with a tank and heat lamp.

Some look like they're breeders selling off the cheaper ones... but more of them come with a tank and heat lamp and presumably came from a pet store of some sort. Not all are normals necessarily, although plenty are. I doubt the humane society cares about that distinction, though.

Incidentally, some of the ads that look like they are breeders selling off the cheap ones don't inspire a whole ton of confidence either. It is not at all hard to imagine someone picking up a snake from one of them, and then a used tank and lamp from another CL seller on the way home... and that only reinforces the oversupply argument.

I don't feel qualified to make value judgements about anyone's breeding operations, and I do appreciate that it's easy to get a captive-bred snake instead of a wild-caught imported one. I'm just saying that if the humane society's goal is to reduce the number of unwanted pets out there that suffer or have to be euthanized, asking people not to make more babies isn't an unreasonable request.

[AbsoluteApril]

This is probably the most ridiculous thread I've seen on here on a long time.

OP, you're trying to see if you can get away with breeding the snake from the humane society even though it's clearly prohibited by them? Why did you get it in the first place then? Do you realize that the reason they have the rules they have is to protect the animal's interest?

Go buy a healthy snake and breed him or her. Don't try to get away with something on a technicality. Ridiculous... People are so obsessed with breeding that they forget to think about the health of the animal. I also can't believe that the people on this thread are supporting this behavior. You should know better...

I agree and am rather surprised by all the people saying 'what they don't know...' or trying to get away on a technicality about the original form being the wrong one.
If the rescue/society has a no breeding clause for adoptions, then you abide by it and don't breed the animal OR you don't adopt from them.

[distaff]

I agree and am rather surprised by all the people saying 'what they don't know...' or trying to get away on a technicality about the original form being the wrong one.
If the rescue/society has a no breeding clause for adoptions, then you abide by it and don't breed the animal OR you don't adopt from them.

The OP was automatically supposed to know this? Is that policy posted clearly on the front door or something? He seems to have adopted a snake thinking he could breed it, and HS now wants to change the deal.

SMH

[Mr. Misha]

The OP was automatically supposed to know this? Is that policy posted clearly on the front door or something? He seems to have adopted a snake thinking he could breed it, and HS now wants to change the deal.

SMH

Yes, he should. Ignorance is not an excuse. Just because you're not aware of something, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. Their policies are always posted on their site.

Additionally, most (if not all) humane societies have a clause that you're adopting the animal as a family pet ONLY. When I adopted my German Shepherd I went through exactly the same thing. I'm also sure that the OP didn't mention anything about breeding the animal to the place he got it from.

The HS isn't changing their policy on breeding because of the OP. It's always been there. The OP just didn't do his research and didn't ask the right questions.


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[theskyturnsgrey]

With all due respect, that humane society would have literally no way of knowing if you bred that snake or not. Breed it if you want. It's not like they have some sort of task force looking for contract breaches, compounded by the fact that you didn't sign anything.

[distaff]

Yes, he should. Ignorance is not an excuse. Just because you're not aware of something, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. Their policies are always posted on their site.

Additionally, most (if not all) humane societies have a clause that you're adopting the animal as a family pet ONLY. When I adopted my German Shepherd I went through exactly the same thing. I'm also sure that the OP didn't mention anything about breeding the animal to the place he got it from.

The HS isn't changing their policy on breeding because of the OP. It's always been there. The OP just didn't do his research and didn't ask the right questions.


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"Ignorance is not an excuse"
It is not anyone's civic duty to know the policies of HS! Op was at an actual facility, not on line. They have to TELL you; that is what the CONTRACT is for.

The cat rescue I used to volunteer for only adopted out sterilized animals. Spay/neuter wasn't even part of the conversation (nor contract) because it was already done. I can easily see the OP leaving with his snake, in good faith, and not thinking this would be an issue.

[AbsoluteApril]

The OP was automatically supposed to know this? Is that policy posted clearly on the front door or something? He seems to have adopted a snake thinking he could breed it, and HS now wants to change the deal.

SMH

And once he found out that is the policy and if he doesn't want to abide by it, return the animal. smh indeed

[OhhWatALoser]

Yes, he should. Ignorance is not an excuse. Just because you're not aware of something, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. Their policies are always posted on their site.

Additionally, most (if not all) humane societies have a clause that you're adopting the animal as a family pet ONLY. When I adopted my German Shepherd I went through exactly the same thing. I'm also sure that the OP didn't mention anything about breeding the animal to the place he got it from.

The HS isn't changing their policy on breeding because of the OP. It's always been there. The OP just didn't do his research and didn't ask the right questions.


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Have you ever asked if you are allowed to breed the snake when you got one? If the HS never said anything and it wasn't in the paper he signed, I wouldn't call that ignorance. The HS my parents got their last dogs from gives discounts if you spay or neuter them, but never dictates you can't breed.

[Mr. Misha]

"Ignorance is not an excuse"
It is not anyone's civic duty to know the policies of HS! Op was at an actual facility, not on line. They have to TELL you; that is what the CONTRACT is for.

It actually is. If you're buying animal or anything for that matter, you should know what rules or laws apply to whatever you're buying.

The contract does state that he can't breed the snake. He just got a wrong contract by mistake.



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