Het Pied? Ringers?

[Fedwa001]

Okay gonna go ahead and ask a "noob" question once again. What are Ringers in Het Pieds? What does a Ringer look like? I have googled images and it comes up with thousands of different photos. I went through post on here for about 30 minutes and only found people talking about "Ringers don't guarantee Het Pied". These photos are of some babies I found on craigslist. I just don't wanna get taken.

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[Dave Green]

Here is a good example of a ringer. He's a fire that is NOT het pied.

[PitOnTheProwl]

^---- That right there is a great ringer.

[Dave Green]

Here's another ringer that did prove to be het pied. She's a cinnamon lesser het pied.

[mdb730]

As far as I understand ringers can be any morph that just happen to have a white band somewhere on the body and might have nothing to do with the pied gene.

"het Pied markers" are a better indication from my experience but also not 100%. Maybe you can ask to see the parents in person before you buy anything het from craigslist.

[Fedwa001]

I don't see any ringers on any of the photos from the craigslist post. Guess the only way to truly tell is to know the sire and dam...

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Great pictures

[piedlover79]

I think you're talking about het pied 'markers' not ringers. The markers are solid black lines along the edges of the belly near the tail. I have had 100% het pieds without these markers, but often times if they do have the markers they end up het for pied (but again not in every case). I think for the most part it is consensus that the 'markers' aren't a great indicator and when it comes to het pied you need to trust your breeder.

Here is a 100% het pied I had a while back with the most complete set of het pied markers I've ever seen to give you an idea of what I mean by black lines along the belly. In this case they ran the whole length of body almost although usually the markers are just the last 1/4 of the body.

[Fedwa001]

I think you're talking about het pied 'markers' not ringers. The markers are solid black lines along the edges of the belly near the tail. I have had 100% het pieds without these markers, but often times if they do have the markers they end up het for pied (but again not in every case). I think for the most part it is consensus that the 'markers' aren't a great indicator and when it comes to het pied you need to trust your breeder.

Here is a 100% het pied I had a while back with the most complete set of het pied markers I've ever seen to give you an idea of what I mean by black lines along the belly. In this case they ran the whole length of body almost although usually the markers are just the last 1/4 of the body.

Thanks so much this helped tons..

[piedlover79]

No prob! Good luck!

[Stewart_Reptiles]

If you want to buy 100% het pied do yourself a favor and buy from a REPUTABLE breeder that will guarantee the genetics of the animal you are purchasing, craigslist sellers are here today to pocket your money and gone tomorrow

Makers and ringer are never 100% and animals should not be bought based on markers or lack there of.