Super pastel?

[devemile]

This is my first clutch so I apologize for my ignorance. The pairing was pied x bumblebee. One hatchling looks like a bumblebee, but the second one looks like a super pastel to me. They haven't had first shed yet but are starting to color up. Thoughts?





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[Galaxygirl]

Could you pied be a pastel pied?

[devemile]

I don't think so but I will post pics of pied. I was thinking maybe bumblebee was really killer bee, but looks like bumblebee to me.

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[Slim]

Can you post a picture of the parents? They sure look like a Super Pastel and a BumbleBee to me, but that begs a few questions.....

[devemile]

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[Galaxygirl]

Was the female a virgin? Possible retained sperm?

[devemile]

Was picked up as an adult. I'm pretty sure it was a virgin but I will try to verify.

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[PitOnTheProwl]

Yeah he doesn't look like a pumpkin pied but that sure looks like a super to me as well.
Has it shed out yet?

[devemile]

No they haven't shed yet.

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[Slim]

Oh, my bad, I thought they had shed already. In that case, the one that looks like a Bee is probably a nice Spider. That other one still looks like a Super Pastel to me though. Interesting...