What do you think? Gravid or not?

[AbsoluteApril]

It just seems that breeding a carpet python to a ball python is a muddying of the gene pool on both ends. It's known and deliberate hybridization. Most breeding is done to isolate and capture more vivid and preferred patterning and coloration. Hybridization and inter grades seem to work against these principles. Just my opinion. I actually thought op said the pairing was accidental?

OP didn't specifically say but it sounded like an accident. I'm personally not a big fan of crosses, I was just explaining what the cross was called since piedlover79 didn't know what they looked like.

[Albert Clark]

OP didn't specifically say but it sounded like an accident. I'm personally not a big fan of crosses, I was just explaining what the cross was called since piedlover79 didn't know what they looked like.

Yes, I see that she placed the ball python in with the carpet as she did cage cleaning. Yeah , not a planned pairing. Thanks.

[dylanjwicklund]

Yea it was an accident as I didn't think they would lock at all and I didn't have a spare bin to put her in while I was cleaning her bin and as soon as I put her in the one side of the 4 ft cage the carpet was instantly active and checking her out


How she is now


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[Marrissa]

It just seems that breeding a carpet python to a ball python is a muddying of the gene pool on both ends. It's known and deliberate hybridization. Most breeding is done to isolate and capture more vivid and preferred patterning and coloration. Hybridization and inter grades seem to work against these principles. Just my opinion. I actually thought op said the pairing was accidental?

I fully intent to eventually acquire a few hybrids just as cool pets. I don't think there's anything wrong with hybrids or breeding for them as long as the end up as pets only.

[rafacacho]

It happens in the wild, with a lot of animals. Its not the most common, but it is out there.
I bet your waiting some egg!! I would!


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[Albert Clark]

I fully intent to eventually acquire a few hybrids just as cool pets. I don't think there's anything wrong with hybrids or breeding for them as long as the end up as pets only.

Got you, and I can understand that. Just on a note though, these two species would never meet in the wild naturally. Both hailing from different corners of the world. Carpets from Northern, eastern and southern Australia and balls from Africa.

[Slim]

I don't think there's anything wrong with hybrids or breeding for them as long as the end up as pets only.

Problem becomes when animals that are sold as pets, get into the breeding pool. May not happen with your animals, but it will happen.

It happens in the wild, with a lot of animals.

Lots? I'd like to see your data please.

[piedlover79]

I wouldn't think you'd have to worry about the carpball 'getting into the breeding pool' won't the hatchlings be sterile like a mule?

[Slim]

I wouldn't think you'd have to worry about the carpball 'getting into the breeding pool' won't the hatchlings be sterile like a mule?

Will they???

[Alicia]

I wouldn't think you'd have to worry about the carpball 'getting into the breeding pool' won't the hatchlings be sterile like a mule?

Personally, I wouldn't bet on it. Just as a for instance, carpondros have reduced fertility, but are not sterile. Indeed, even mules are not perfectly sterile, with the odd female mule being fertile. Another really good example in mammals are Savannah Cats, in which first generation males are sterile. The females can reproduce, and males become reproductive the further they are from the first couple generations. Savannahs are also a pretty good example, as, unlike mules, angry balls, and super balls, they're hybrids between two different genera. (Like carpalls.)*

Male carpalls may well be sterile, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if a few of the females were reproductive. In fact, I'd be surprised if they weren't.


*Some folks still regard Chondro as a valid genus, so, carpondros might be inter-generic, as well.