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    Considering the age of this Gene and other genes with known defects that have been around for even less time yet yielded concrete proof of lethality I would theorize that if spider x spider is in fact lethal it is pre-hatching or even pre-incubation. To me there is nothing that would stop me or make me shy away from this beautiful morph.
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    spider x spider article

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    Considering the age of this Gene and other genes with known defects that have been around for even less time yet yielded concrete proof of lethality I would theorize that if spider x spider is in fact lethal it is pre-hatching or even pre-incubation. To me there is nothing that would stop me or make me shy away from this beautiful morph.
    I agree. Many people try to make super cinnis despite some babies hatching deformed. Breeding spiders and having some babies not develop enough to even live isn't that bad but it's looked down upon while the former isn't
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    Re: spider x spider article

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxygirl View Post
    I've talked with some "big breeders" like Rob Starzman who have produced hundreds of clutches (possibly thousands of hatchlings) trying to figure out what's going on with Spider x Spider and his results were inconclusive. He didn't mention producing any dead white babies, an increased slug ratio, or eggs that went bad. Other breeders have been trying to explore Spider x Spider with no unusual results, as well.
    Wow! Thousands of hatchlings. I'd love to run some simple statistics on that sort of population.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
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    Given your vast genetic knowledge I wanted to ask a hypothetical question. Not to say it would be the case at all, but is there a plausible explanation that would account for a non lethal but also non existent homozygous spider given the public knowledge we have currently?
    I am not aware of any such plausible explanation. Unfortunately, that sort of question falls in one of the many areas of genetics where my knowledge is weak to nil.

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    so first super spider (if possible) to prove out (as in live to adult hood and breed and show its always all spiders) is worth what? a million dollars? or just $150 (bout double of the standard spiders i see)
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