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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
 Originally Posted by gameonpython
Thank you so much for all the tips! I'm actually getting a panther chameleon in the near future and was thinking I'd get a mist king auto mister set up for both the chameleon and Dexter. I will look into the Fogger more though. I've heard mixed reviews on it; did you find it to be poor quality?
Going with Mist King would be great.
As for the fogger it didnt give me any issues. However I did clean it regularly and used filtered water. I have always been one to take extremely good care of my things so they usually last me a good while.
It wasn't built like a tank but for what it was I thought it was a good product.
I really did love how the fog looked when it rolled in.
KMG 
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0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
0.1 Brooks Kingsnake 0.1 Speckled Kingsnake 1.0 Western Hognose
0.1 Blonde Madagascar Hognose 1.0 Columbian Boa
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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
 Originally Posted by KMG
Going with Mist King would be great.
As for the fogger it didnt give me any issues. However I did clean it regularly and used filtered water. I have always been one to take extremely good care of my things so they usually last me a good while.
It wasn't built like a tank but for what it was I thought it was a good product.
I really did love how the fog looked when it rolled in.
I have RO water so it would stay nice and clean, the fog is quite appealing!
I'm still wondering about using Gatorade to rehydrate him. I know other keepers have used this method, do you think it would be worth it to try?
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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
He's doing a bit better with more frequent misting and the majority of the screen covered. He still doesn't have that healthy shine, but he's not looking so patchy anymore.
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Im guessing gatorade would make him sticky.
Never heard of a snake being rehydrated with it but would love to here if anyone has successfully done it.
Good looking snake op
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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
 Originally Posted by CantHelpIt
Im guessing gatorade would make him sticky.
Never heard of a snake being rehydrated with it but would love to here if anyone has successfully done it.
Good looking snake op 
Supposedly Gatorade has the needed electrolytes to rehydrate reptiles, but I agree it would be sticky! I think for now I'll just keep doing what I'm doing because it seems to actually be helping. Thank you, he's quite a stunner with the yellow, white and black!
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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
 Originally Posted by gameonpython
I have RO water so it would stay nice and clean, the fog is quite appealing!
I'm still wondering about using Gatorade to rehydrate him. I know other keepers have used this method, do you think it would be worth it to try?
Sorry for the delay. You can always PM me so I get an email if you have a question. Otherwise I sometimes miss post that fall off the active list and don't realize I was asked a question.
So you got the fogger? I liked it a lot too.
As for the Gatorade I have never heard of that. I have read about adding electrolytes to water but never in a sport drink form. Its usually used with a animal that is sick or dehydrated.
As far as it helping a shed I don't believe it would do any good. Just keep the humidity up and you will get a full shed soon.
KMG 
0.1 BP 1.1 Blood Python 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 1.0 Aru Green Tree Python
0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
0.1 Brooks Kingsnake 0.1 Speckled Kingsnake 1.0 Western Hognose
0.1 Blonde Madagascar Hognose 1.0 Columbian Boa
1.1 Olde English Bulldogge 1.0 Pit Bull

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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
 Originally Posted by gameonpython
Supposedly Gatorade has the needed electrolytes to rehydrate reptiles, but I agree it would be sticky! I think for now I'll just keep doing what I'm doing because it seems to actually be helping. Thank you, he's quite a stunner with the yellow, white and black!
I did some searching about it and though I see that it has been discussed I think its bogus info.
A dehydrated animal is aided by electrolytes on the inside buy drinking them. They are not going to soak them up, especially a snake. Snakes do not absorb well through their skin so I don't think it would have any actual benefit.
KMG 
0.1 BP 1.1 Blood Python 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 1.0 Aru Green Tree Python
0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
0.1 Brooks Kingsnake 0.1 Speckled Kingsnake 1.0 Western Hognose
0.1 Blonde Madagascar Hognose 1.0 Columbian Boa
1.1 Olde English Bulldogge 1.0 Pit Bull

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Re: Grumpy, dry skin, and won't eat
 Originally Posted by KMG
I did some searching about it and though I see that it has been discussed I think its bogus info.
A dehydrated animal is aided by electrolytes on the inside buy drinking them. They are not going to soak them up, especially a snake. Snakes do not absorb well through their skin so I don't think it would have any actual benefit.
I actually didn't get the Fogger, but I have seen videos of it and it's pretty awesome. I think I am going to get a mistking set up soon though. Thanks again for all your help!
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What ever happened to the BP you had that was run on an unregulated UTH? At least I think that was it. Your tag seems really familiar.
As for that python and cage, you need a fogger. That is a pretty tall cage and its gonna take some effort to keep that humidity up. Also like said, plug off that screen on the bottom. Most snakes wont eat if their husbandry isn't right and with his skin being all dry, i'm gonna guess he is dehydrated first and foremost which will put snakes off food as well which goes back to husbandry issues. And a 60 watt bulb to heat a 4' tall cage? I use 100 watt CHEs on Herpstats to maintain 40 gallon tanks for my babies. I cant imagine a 60 watt heating a huge cage like that. like Gio mentioned, you need to review the guidelines for husbandry and then completely rework your set up to match. Best of luck getting it all straightened out.
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Also as for dehydration, I have heard people soaking snakes in unflavored Pedialyte. But like mentioned, they don't soak up liquids through their skin. they need to drink and/or soak it in through their vent to an extent. The problem is even if he is drinking, if the environment is bone dry, hes going to just "sweat" the fluids out per say. I know in my house atm with it being cold, my humidity is only around 30%. no amount of drinking is going to compensate for a humidity like that on a tropical reptile.
As for heating, you need to get it to around 90F with a cool spot of 70ish. They still need heat available though at all times. It's like saying "during the day I give my boa 90F hot spot and at night it drops to 70F". That's just not gonna work. You need to provide him with a CHE at night if you plan to keep that set up you got so he can sit at be warm if wanted.
That cage is pretty nice in size but personally if it was me, I would sell it online and order a PVC cage from someone like Animal Plastics or Constrictors NW. Those cages are much easier to maintain humidity and temps with. Anyways, hope that helps some.
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