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    Re: New user with new python

    Its common sense really lol only a idiot would think a heat mat is better. Its easier for big collectors as it does the job. However if you have a couple use ceramic you can easily attain a 90 hot end under a log or a hide with a 76-80 cool end

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    Re: New user with new python

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Actually if you do the math Tyson, whole room heating is the cheapest when done correctly.

    They don't need to have belly heat and racks are better for us once your collection starts to grow.
    Agree if your room is already there thats perfect

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    Re: New user with new python

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Overhead heat sources, such as heat lamps or CHE's, are not recommended for any enclosure where the snake requires high humidity as they permit too much warm, humid air to escape out the top; the heat source must be separated from the animal and the air escapes around or through the fixture. A head source like an RHP works since the top of the enclosure is solid and the RHP is physically in the enclosure, but it's not really hot enough to burn your snake.

    Heat pads or UTH's are recommended not necessarily because overhead versus belly heat is better, but because it's ideal for snakes that need high humidity in the enclosure.
    I keep boas with ceramics never had a bad shed just spray the viv once a day?

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    Re: New user with new python

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson88 View Post
    I keep boas with ceramics never had a bad shed just spray the viv once a day?
    If that works for you then that's fine. My house humidity crashes to 5% or lower in the winter, so I have to do everything I can to minimize ventilation in the snake cages and keep that warm, humid air in the enclosure.

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    Re: New user with new python

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson88 View Post
    Its common sense really lol only a idiot would think a heat mat is better. Its easier for big collectors as it does the job. However if you have a couple use ceramic you can easily attain a 90 hot end under a log or a hide with a 76-80 cool end

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    No need to name call those who don't know any better. To people just starting at and looking for information, there are multiple resources that recommend belly heat or back heat. To someone who is new at the hobby of keeping snakes, this is probably the first and most readily available answer they get when they search online. They don't have prior experience to go off of so it's not really fair to say it's common sense because for a new owner, it's not.

    That being said, obviously everyone has their own personal preferences when it comes to heating sources, that has been made clear. As long as it is a safe and regulated heat source, than its up to the OP to decide which preferred method they decide upon.
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    Re: New user with new python

    I've always used belly heat to generate the "Hot Side" of the tank, and used room heat for the warm side. I'll supplement with a heat lamp if the temp drops, but only to help warm the air in the tank for the "cool temp"
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    Thank you all for the help, advices, i really apreciate it.

    Now, i have new pics from Jack, and a couple of questions...

    Facts :

    1) Jack was used to eat only every 6 weeks
    2) Jack skin was everywhere, in small pieces
    3) Temp was 50°C and humidity was 30%
    4) 1 hide place
    5) 1 bulb for heating 150W
    6) 1 heat pad

    What i did was :

    1) Cleaned the entire Terrarium
    3) New subtract for floor
    3) small pool with bottled water (going this week for a bigger one)
    4) 1 hide place with a 60W bulb
    5) some moss to keep himidity (going this week for a waterfall & Humidity machine)
    6) Decoration is under my gf, so this week we will get alot of new stuff for Jack more hiding places, more brunches, waterfall, etc...

    What i achieved until now was, temp stable at 30°C, humidity checked every hour at 60%, and a very, very happy animal as far as i can tell...

    Here is Jack in his new home :








    Now, i know what you told about hiding, 3 sides covering, etc...but i have a question because its a bit strange for me how Jack act...

    As you noticed, my terrarium is open all sides, and i find "strange" or Comic, Jack doesnt hide when we are at home, i mean....we work all day, he is alsleep, but around 8pm he comes out his hiding place and never goes back to it until late or next day.

    He is bow very active, always going around the terrarium and even follow us when we walk.. its kinda of strange i guess..

    He is way far from aggressive or stressed otherwyze he would hide, right? hes not, i can even hold him....


    As always, all advices are welcome...

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    Re: New user with new python

    Sometimes pacing around the enclosure is a sign of stress
    Id go with a bulb that doesnt give off light. Hiding balls are the happiest

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    Re: New user with new python

    And i cant tell but his cool end use a nice tight hight thats not open

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    Tight hide sorry*


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