Need Important Advice (Expert Knowledge of Reptiles Needed)

[Snoop_Dong]

The milk snake will literally kill your ball python. The end done. It will then probably try and eat the ball python and subsequently die because the ball python is too large to digest.

Its a terrible idea and if you do it then you deserve any problems that come your way.

You'll have a hard time convincing even me who isn't totally against keeping two snakes of the same species together, to even keep those two snakes together.

However two snakes of different species? Completely different genus and family? Even worse.

Don't do it because it's stupid and borderline animal abuse.


Also, both milk snakes and ball pythons are nocturnal.

Chill no need to ruffle feathers, if you would've read the post you would know already i don't even have the cage. Time to take a breather before calling PETA i'm not doing live animal testing on my BP . Also Milk Snakes are diurnal, they have a unique aspect to being diurnal though being they can change their sleep habits throughout the seasons. Also why do you assume the milk snake would just immediately hunt the BP? Majority examples of documented cannibalism from housing together it when you feed them at the same time. Please provide evidence of a milk snake going out of it's way to eat a BP for no reason which is the same size as the milk.

[distaff]

SD,

If you don't want the advice, why did you ask?

[Snoop_Dong]

Despite ball pythons being nocturnal, they do wake up throughout the day, so suggesting that the two species won't see each other due to sleep patterns is not correct. Also, if you were sleeping in a nice comfy bed and some other person was cruising over you while you were trying to sleep and moving all around your house, you'd wake up too. While ball pythons mainly eat rodents, I'm not certain a hungry ball wouldn't eat (or attempt to eat) a smaller snake, not to mention different heating and humidity needs. All and all, each species should be kept in cage set up for its own specific needs.

Though i agree with the Ball python will see the corn sometimes, they wouldn't be competing for the same hides due to the numerous amounts of them. I did factor in both their requirements and both species prefer the same ambient temperature, humidity, and heating pad temperature (Both species can live just fine with 60% humidity, high 80's heating pad, and constant 80 degree ambient temperature. You make a point with the hungry ball python but they are so picky that i have doubt on them striking a milk because i don't feed him snake scented rats. Plus the milk it seems to primarily live on the 2nd floor which i doubt the BP would climb up to. Though i wasn't really planning on doing this but i couldn't find a counter argument on why it couldn't be done. If that makes sense.

[Snoop_Dong]

SD,

If you don't want the advice, why did you ask?

There's a different between advice on what you ask rather than recommending stuff i originally didn't ask. Staying open minded is important for all subjects.

[distaff]

Though i agree with the Ball python will see the corn sometimes, they wouldn't be competing for the same hides due to the numerous amounts of them. I did factor in both their requirements and both species prefer the same ambient temperature, humidity, and heating pad temperature (Both species can live just fine with 60% humidity, high 80's heating pad, and constant 80 degree ambient temperature. You make a point with the hungry ball python but they are so picky that i have doubt on them striking a milk because i don't feed him snake scented rats. Plus the milk it seems to primarily live on the 2nd floor which i doubt the BP would climb up to. Though i wasn't really planning on doing this but i couldn't find a counter argument on why it couldn't be done. If that makes sense.

So now you want to put THREE in there?
SMH
Those animals deserve better.

[Snoop_Dong]

Might want to re-read my post.

I have not told you to stick to tubs I have told you to gain experience, I also recommended to use common sense, again those are two different species from very different geographical locations, having different husbandry needs. (temps and humidty)

" Given your limited experience I would suggest to try to continue to maintain the animal you already have successfully for now."

Maintaing the animal i already have living fine now means sticking to my tub setup. Though i wasn't even planning on husbandry for my snakes. What i found interesting actually both species can live suitably together when it comes to the humidity, ambient temperature, and heating temperature. This is why i thought it was an interesting concept that bypassed the usual arguments people have against housing together multiple snakes.

[Snoop_Dong]

So now you want to put THREE in there?
SMH
Those animals deserve better.

LOL oops i meant milk instead of corn. Though hold down on the trigger Mr.Edge, this topic seems to be ruffling your feathers maybe you should take a 15 minute break and do 30 jumping jacks then join back into the conversation.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

There's a different between advice on what you ask rather than recommending stuff i originally didn't ask. Staying open minded is important for all subjects.

You asked if it was a good idea you were given answers the only problem is that the answers are not what YOU want to hear even though they are based on simple common sense.

Based on your answers you are here for validation, you want a pat on the back and people to tell you that it is a great idea nothing more.

So I will say it "Don't mind the different husbandry requirements of two different species go ahead do it, it's a great idea" Happy?

You have a lot to learn.

[Snoop_Dong]

Milk, rat, and king snakes are all cannibals - they will kill and eat other snakes. This is why I get upset when my neighbors kill the wild black rat snakes - they are killing a snake that eats copperheads and rattlesnakes.

The husbandry requirements for the milk snakes are vastly different than for the BP. The milk needs temps from the low-mid 70's to mid 80's with low to moderate humidity, your ball python needs temps from the upper 70's to low 90's with high humidity.

Yeah i looked at that, both their ranges for requirements fit in with each other; BP's live fine with 60% which most terrariums fit that as their humidity levels and milk's are fine with that humidity. This is the advice i'm looking for you have given facts and evidence into possible reasons it might not work while not becoming slanted. Though snakes resort to cannibalism when there is competition? These 2 wouldn't be close to competing. (This doesn't apply to you) Why is everyone making this conversation as if i have the milk snake and ball python together right now? I don't plan on buying the cage like i stated. Plus i only own BP's which i plan on sticking with for the most part.

[Ax01]

Though i agree with the Ball python will see the corn sometimes, they wouldn't be competing for the same hides due to the numerous amounts of them. I did factor in both their requirements and both species prefer the same ambient temperature, humidity, and heating pad temperature (Both species can live just fine with 60% humidity, high 80's heating pad, and constant 80 degree ambient temperature. You make a point with the hungry ball python but they are so picky that i have doubt on them striking a milk because i don't feed him snake scented rats. Plus the milk it seems to primarily live on the 2nd floor which i doubt the BP would climb up to. Though i wasn't really planning on doing this but i couldn't find a counter argument on why it couldn't be done. If that makes sense.

sounds like u have really given this a lot of thought and "research." based on this post (and other ones from u), u have a lot of reasons or excuses to get this enclosure and keep the 4 year old Milk Snake and your baby BP together. u came up with all of those reasons yourself. no other forumer has said the snakes won't see each other, the BP won't go to the second story, there's plenty of hides, their husbandry is the same, etc. etc.

again why bother asking? sounds like u already made up your mind.