Need Important Advice (Expert Knowledge of Reptiles Needed)

[Snoop_Dong]

Just found an amazing 3 story cage. The cage is custom made and properly heated and decorated amazingly. It's like 4ft x 4ft measurements. Though the cage is a decent price but come with a different species of snake other than a BP. If i were to house 2 different species of snake in that enclosure, due to the availability of space would there be any issue? Do BP target other species? This other species of snake is small and similar in size to a teenage BP (. I know for a fact the snake being housed isn't aggressive. Plus the snake in there is diurnal while BP's are nocturnal. So wouldn't there be no issue sense multiple "best" heating spots are available. I wouldn't be feeding both at the same time ether. This is just hypothesis i don't even know if i want to obtain this cage just thought the concept was interesting. So a milk and a BP becoming buddies doable? I've never seen a post about housing a diurnal and a nocturnal together so it got me wondering. Oh btw their both male so no hybrids gonna happen by accident.

[Ax01]

u don't mean you're gonna house your BP and the Milk Snake in the same space right? u mean your BP in one story of the enclosure, the Milk Snake on another story and the third one being empty? it's not a good idea to house a BP with another snake regardless of species, size or sex just b/c of their personality and how easy they can become stressed.

i made a thread asking about Corns vs. Kings/Milks before i got mine. I asked if it would be a problem for my BP's. i have two baby Milks now and they are in the same room with some BP's no problem. but i don't handle them together or even handle/feed the Milks after handling my BP's or Corn. and they are in separate enclosures of course.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Common sense will tell you that different species often have different husbandry requirement.

This cage would be great for an arboreal or semi arboreal species (which BP are not by the way), no idea about the animal currently house in the cage since you give little to no info.

Getting a cheap cage is one thing getting one suited for your need is another.

Given your limited experience I would suggest to try to continue to maintain the animal you already have successfully for now.

[Ax01]

^ oh, it's an arboreal cage with 3 open stories? oh no, not a good idea to house a Milk Snake and BP in there. no way.

u just got your baby BP eating. u might be super excited but need to stop and think about it before adding another snake esp. with this crazy set-up.

[Snoop_Dong]

^ oh, it's an arboreal cage with 3 open stories? oh no, not a good idea to house a Milk Snake and BP in there. no way.

u just got your baby BP eating. u might be super excited but need to stop and think about it before adding another snake esp. with this crazy set-up.

This isn't my set up, plus i've had my hatchling eating for awhile. I was wondering if the milk and the ball could co exist because they wouldn't even really see each other due to their sleep patterns. Though this set up i found is pretty dope the milk is like 4 years old so it defiantly likes living inside of it.

[Snoop_Dong]

Common sense will tell you that different species often have different husbandry requirement.

This cage would be great for an arboreal or semi arboreal species (which BP are not by the way), no idea about the animal currently house in the cage since you give little to no info.

Getting a cheap cage is one thing getting one suited for your need is another.

Given your limited experience I would suggest to try to continue to maintain the animal you already have successfully for now.

I gave the sizes are similar and the types of snakes and even their sleeping patterns. Each story has the suitable needs for a ball python. I may not have had my BP long, i do know what my BP needs to live happy. This cage is so nice i was only wondering if a BP would even be stressed due to never being awake for the milk snake fiddling around. Plus like i said this was only a concept, i wasn't planning on paying large amount for the cage but due to how unique it was i contemplated in my head the type of things could be done with it. Actually this cage would probably be better than most tub set ups people have due to the plants giving cover and the multitude of hides inside of it. Also common sense isn't practical when it comes to hybrids sometimes; not saying it's possible between a ball and milk but there are some screwed up hybrids that don't ever live after insemination. Though in my post i made it plain i wasn't even contemplating buying this so i don't understand why you're recommending me to stick to my tubs.

[Crowfingers]

Despite ball pythons being nocturnal, they do wake up throughout the day, so suggesting that the two species won't see each other due to sleep patterns is not correct. Also, if you were sleeping in a nice comfy bed and some other person was cruising over you while you were trying to sleep and moving all around your house, you'd wake up too. While ball pythons mainly eat rodents, I'm not certain a hungry ball wouldn't eat (or attempt to eat) a smaller snake, not to mention different heating and humidity needs. All and all, each species should be kept in cage set up for its own specific needs.

[Jhill001]

The milk snake will literally kill your ball python. The end done. It will then probably try and eat the ball python and subsequently die because the ball python is too large to digest.

Its a terrible idea and if you do it then you deserve any problems that come your way.

You'll have a hard time convincing even me who isn't totally against keeping two snakes of the same species together, to even keep those two snakes together.

However two snakes of different species? Completely different genus and family? Even worse.

Don't do it because it's stupid and borderline animal abuse.


Also, both milk snakes and ball pythons are nocturnal.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Though in my post i made it plain i wasn't even contemplating buying this so i don't understand why you're recommending me to stick to my tubs.

Might want to re-read my post.

I have not told you to stick to tubs I have told you to gain experience, I also recommended to use common sense, again those are two different species from very different geographical locations, having different husbandry needs. (temps and humidty)

[bcr229]

Milk, rat, and king snakes are all cannibals - they will kill and eat other snakes. This is why I get upset when my neighbors kill the wild black rat snakes - they are killing a snake that eats copperheads and rattlesnakes.

The husbandry requirements for the milk snakes are vastly different than for the BP. The milk needs temps from the low-mid 70's to mid 80's with low to moderate humidity, your ball python needs temps from the upper 70's to low 90's with high humidity.