Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
There is quite a bit to point at super spider being lethal, just nothing rock solid. champ x champ lethal, spider x champ lethal, and the spider x wobble morphs that get a more severe wobble. I don't think it would be illogical to assume spider x spider would be the absolute worst off of them all, given how it seems to be the most severe in the heterozygous form out of all the wobble morphs. Also scatter reports of more than expected slugs, a couple white snakes hatching and less than expect hatch rates, which I even experienced myself....

I did spider x spider last year, lost 1 out of 4 eggs partway through
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Spider-results
I decided to keep my spider female and breed her to a spider morph every year for now on, just to keep adding clutch data. This year will be a hypo spinner

Also don't throw pin into this convo, both bhb and evan stahl have proved out super pins. I hope to do the same in a year or so, babies are growing up now from this clutch. 8 out of 8 eggs hatched with no issue.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ake-super-pins
Like you said, I don't think it's explored enough to really say, but after talking to many breeders who breed Spider x Spider with no unusual results, I wouldn't be afraid to try it. I might do it this season. There was someone else on this site also doing some Spider x Spider breedings that I'm interested in seeing the results of. You have a link to "a couple white snakes hatching"? I thought it was only one that started the rumor.

If Pinstripe is co-dom people probably don't breed Pin x Pin too often because you can't tell visually that you've created the Super... Same with spider.