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    Question about pairing BELs

    So i have a Super Butter BEL and i was thinking of pairing him with a Karma BEL female?
    Obviously i am going for BELs but i wanted to ask if there are genetic problems breeding BELs to BELs? because it doesnt seem like alot of people do it.
    (this would also be my first time breeding so i really want to get informed before i get a female)


    also i have a bumblebee enchi that i am still trying to pair up, i just honestly have no idea what to
    suggestions would be amazing!

    Thanks for the help!

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    If you were to breed a Karma to a BEL your chances are 50% BEL (Lesser/Butter x Lesser/Butter) and 50% Butter Phantom.

    I am sure you are well aware of two things:
    1: A Karma ball python is a Lesser x Phantom Super BEL
    2: Butter and Lesser are the same morph with two different names.

    This means that the pairing of Butter BEL and Karma BEL would give 100% all white snakes with blue eyes but you will not be able to tell which is is Butter x Butter and which is Karma. Karma would obviously be worth more since it is a double genetic snake but you cannot sell it as a Karma since you do not know the exact genetic make up. This is why a lot of people do not breed BEL to BEL of different genetics. A Lesser BEL to a Lesser BEL has been done countless times.
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    Re: Question about pairing BELs

    Quote Originally Posted by BCS View Post
    If you were to breed a Karma to a BEL your chances are 50% BEL (Lesser/Butter x Lesser/Butter) and 50% Butter Phantom.

    I am sure you are well aware of two things:
    1: A Karma ball python is a Lesser x Phantom Super BEL
    2: Butter and Lesser are the same morph with two different names.

    This means that the pairing of Butter BEL and Karma BEL would give 100% all white snakes with blue eyes but you will not be able to tell which is is Butter x Butter and which is Karma. Karma would obviously be worth more since it is a double genetic snake but you cannot sell it as a Karma since you do not know the exact genetic make up. This is why a lot of people do not breed BEL to BEL of different genetics. A Lesser BEL to a Lesser BEL has been done countless times.
    Hii!!

    Thank you very much for the reply!
    I always thought you could sort of tell the different BEls apart, because they can look slightly different, but i see what you mean, i could never tell for sure which is which, which means if i wanted to sell them later on i wouldn't be able to tell potential buyers if they have a double gene or a single one.

    My main priority was to find out if there are genetic issues with it, because i dont want to cause harm to any snakes.

    Thank you again!

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    No, you can definitely breed them successfully.

    Oh, and as for your bumblebee enchi, only you can decide on what to breed it to. Go on world of ball pythons and use the genetic wizard to find out what you think looks awesome.

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    Re: Question about pairing BELs

    There should be a warning attached: 'Using the genetics wizard on WoBP may result in the discovery that you need a half dozen more morphs to try interesting combinations with.'

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    I can see it now! Rack systems -snake rooms deary me
    Ball Pythons are just too amazing

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    Re: Question about pairing BELs

    Quote Originally Posted by Surimi View Post
    I can see it now! Rack systems -snake rooms deary me
    Ball Pythons are just too amazing
    I had to switch to racks eventually. Seems like anyone who gets into ball pythons dreams of producing that one of kind snake...

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