i don't know but there should be some kind of certification that you have to get in order to keep herps so that we don't end up with so many cases of neglect and abuse and just general people not knowing what they are doing. i really hate it that just anyone can walk into a petstore and purchase a snake or a lizard or whatever without the slightest clue as to how to care for it. sorry, i rambled and got you off topic.