Borrowed breeding?

[AjBalls]

I've been involved with two different methods of breeder loans so far.

The first:
I loaned a normal female to someone I've done business for a couple years by the time. I asked him if he could breed her to his Mojave, as they we're still upwards of $800+ at this time, which he agreed to. Some months later, with little contact, he told me she laid two eggs and that he would bring her to the next reptile show for me to pick up. A couple months pass by and he told me two normal males hatched out. The lack of communication on that one primarily left me with a sour taste in my mouth.

The second:
This is one I have done the past two years with someone I've been doing business with for close to 10 years now. The first year, I had my banana bumblebee sent to him to breed to a few of his females; I was deployed at the time and couldn't breed. This previous year, he asked to borrow my clown male to try to prove out some possible hets as he wasn't able to pick up a pastel clown like he wanted to. Since I see him at least once a month, he would give me updates every time on if anything ovulated or has laid. Or he would send me text updates. What we would do when it was time to split clutches, after every female lays and all the eggs have hatched, we'd place everything in a pile of males and females. The person who owns the higher valued snake gets first pick, then we go back and forth until there are no snakes left.

The second method I definitely prefer. I'm sure there are some people that do it clutch by clutch, but as one whole pile from the loan seems to even it out more for both parties.

Also these were both somewhat local deals. I have yet to send a snake multiple states away to try.

If I had to give advice to someone looking to try a breeder loan, I would suggest that they maintain good communication with the other breeder and to definitely ask for pictures along the way. Primarily of amount of eggs laid, eggs throughout the incubation period, so no one can say "lost an egg" to keep an additional animal; and the pipping/cutting portion. Along with all the babies out of the egg. And if you really want to get anal, videos of the hatchlings being sexed, if you are doing like a cross country loan.