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    Severe Temperature Fluctuation

    First of all, while I do appreciate that everyone wants to help out, I am only looking for input from people who have experienced this themselves, or know somebody that has experienced it. I don't really need any help with theories or possibilities, as I am aware of those. I've been breeding a few years, and asked other people who have bred for longer, and none of us are sure on this.

    I had two clutches drop within the last week that I was not expecting at all. I'm living in a new place temporarily, and there's a lot of temperature variation. The eggs today have gone between 84.6 to 93.1 degrees as I tried to maintain stable temperatures until I got my incubator up and running. They are now at 85 degrees and slowly warming up to 89.

    Has anyone experienced such a large fluctuation in new eggs and still had healthy babies emerge? They are within their first week of development, and they are candling with healthy veins, but that is all I know. I know when I have maternally incubated in the past, the eggs went between 85 and 89 degrees throughout incubation, and the babies were all very healthy. But the temperature changed over a course of days, not a matter of hours.

    Even if nobody knows right now, I will update this thread with what happens to them so that if anyone in the future is wondering, they can find the answer. I am hoping it's early enough in development that they will keep going and not produce deformed babies, or die before hatching.

    Last edited by meowmeowkazoo; 08-05-2015 at 07:09 PM.
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    All of the eggs have developing babies inside of them that react to light when candled, and strong veins. So I think at this point it's safe to say that the eggs will survive and go full term, and it's just going to be a question of whether the initial fluctuation will cause any birth defects.
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    Between yesterday and today, all eight eggs hatched into healthy babies with no deformities or other issues. So it appears the temperature fluctuations early on did not harm their development at all.
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    1.0 Black Butter Pinstripe (Amazeballs), 1.0 Pastel Butter Leopard (Thunderbeeper)
    0.1 Spider (Charlotte), 0.1 Leopard (Spot), 0.1 Pastel (Buttercup), Fire Sugar (Abaddon), Crystal (Opalescence)

    [Python brongersmai]
    1.1 T+ Albino (Kushiel & Carmilla)

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    Pic's or it didn't happen

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    Definitely. I also got great odds. Three black pastels from those three eggs. Two mojaves, two crystals, and either a normal or special from the other five eggs. I incubated them all together since they were laid around the same time, and they all hatched within a day or two of each other.











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    0.1 Spider (Charlotte), 0.1 Leopard (Spot), 0.1 Pastel (Buttercup), Fire Sugar (Abaddon), Crystal (Opalescence)

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    For what it's worth, the incubator was also transported about 2-3 weeks into development because I had to move, so these babies went through quite a bit to come out unscathed. I am just thrilled they are all healthy. They hatched close to day 60.
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    0.1 Spider (Charlotte), 0.1 Leopard (Spot), 0.1 Pastel (Buttercup), Fire Sugar (Abaddon), Crystal (Opalescence)

    [Python brongersmai]
    1.1 T+ Albino (Kushiel & Carmilla)

    [Boa imperator]
    1.0 Hypo 100% Het Leopard/66% Het Albino (Darcy)
    0.1 66% Het Leopard/Albino (Gabby)


    [Colubrids]
    0.1 Cave-dwelling Rat Snakes (Betty Spaghetti)

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    Re: Severe Temperature Fluctuation

    They are so gorgeous! Congrats on a heathy batch of worms and congrats on those odds too!!

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    Thanks for sharing, I'm so glad everything turned out okay! Congrats on the beautiful babies!
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    Re: Severe Temperature Fluctuation

    Quote Originally Posted by meowmeowkazoo View Post
    For what it's worth, the incubator was also transported about 2-3 weeks into development because I had to move, so these babies went through quite a bit to come out unscathed. I am just thrilled they are all healthy. They hatched close to day 60.
    Wow chief, congrats! And you were looking for advice from us? I need to take a page out of your book and highlight some of your work. Haha. Kudos on a healthy 2 clutches and having the odds god in your favor.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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