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    Clutch #2 Results post shed

    Well here are a couple pics of our second clutch which was Vanilla X Fire. The results are 1.3 with two normal and two morphs. Both of the morphs are female. The questions is are they Fire or Vanilla? I think they are both the same and I am leaning towards Fire, but I'd appreciate any input from those with much more experience then I....wink, wink, nudge, nudge, Gale.

    Thanks in advance for any help and thanks for looking

    Whole clutch
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    Female #1
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    Female #2
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    I agree on them being fires.

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    i see fire on left but the other could be vanilla. pictures of parents will help a lot
    1.0 superstripe, killerbee, OD spider fire, black pastel YB, black specter, pastel dinker, spider dinker, banana, banana cinnamon, enchi fire OD, fire dream bee het. russo, pastel superstripe, 2.0 firefly dream YB.

    0.2 superpastel yb, 0.2 enchi, 0.1 yellowbelly 0.2 cinnamon, 0.2 normal, 0.1 black widow, black pewter, fire, lemon pastel, pastel, black pastel, bumblebee, spider granite, het. russo, super pastel, pastel specter, specter,lesser pin, OD, fire OD, OD fire het. russo, OD pastel, firefly dream YB, fire bee het. russo, lemon pastel enchi, citrus super enchi, super pastel enchi, pastel ivory, bumblebee dinker

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    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed

    Quote Originally Posted by darkranger69 View Post
    i see fire on left but the other could be vanilla. pictures of parents will help a lot
    The female is deep in shed right now but as soon as she finishes I will take a side by side photo of them. I posted this thread of the parents when I first paired them.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ghlight=creamy

    The first photo has the male Fire on the left and the female Vanilla on the right. About 7 or 8 posts further down the thread is a side by side picture, but the female is glowing as she hadn't ovulated yet so it isn't really a fair comparison.

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    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed

    Here is a photo I shot today as the female just finished shedding. 0.1 Vanilla on the left and 1.0 Fire on the right. Again, I appreciate anyone's input who has some experience with both morphs.

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    Last edited by rlditmars; 09-14-2015 at 06:46 PM.

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    Regardless, you have some pretty snakes there Riditmars!

    Congrats!
    The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.

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    So hard to tell the difference I'm pretty scared of not being able to tell the difference when I breed my vanilla cream this year
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    I am leaning toward two vanillas actually

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    after seeing the parents pictures, i change my opinion: fire on right, vanilla on left
    1.0 superstripe, killerbee, OD spider fire, black pastel YB, black specter, pastel dinker, spider dinker, banana, banana cinnamon, enchi fire OD, fire dream bee het. russo, pastel superstripe, 2.0 firefly dream YB.

    0.2 superpastel yb, 0.2 enchi, 0.1 yellowbelly 0.2 cinnamon, 0.2 normal, 0.1 black widow, black pewter, fire, lemon pastel, pastel, black pastel, bumblebee, spider granite, het. russo, super pastel, pastel specter, specter,lesser pin, OD, fire OD, OD fire het. russo, OD pastel, firefly dream YB, fire bee het. russo, lemon pastel enchi, citrus super enchi, super pastel enchi, pastel ivory, bumblebee dinker

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    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Regardless, you have some pretty snakes there Riditmars!

    Congrats!
    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by BumbleB View Post
    So hard to tell the difference I'm pretty scared of not being able to tell the difference when I breed my vanilla cream this year
    I just don't want to mislead anyone when I sell them. Value wise they are equals, but from a breeding plan scenario they are night and day. I may have to let them grow up a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kibbleswhites View Post
    I am leaning toward two vanillas actually
    You may be right. They seem to be getting a little more golden colored since they shed.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkranger69 View Post
    after seeing the parents pictures, i change my opinion: fire on right, vanilla on left
    You're not really helping. LOL No, I appreciate your opinion but that is what I am struggling with. I keep going back and forth.

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