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    Quality of life

    How do you know if your BP has got a good quality of life? how do you know they are happy?

    If they eat, and hide all day?

    My BP has a Width 862, Depth 490, Height 500mm, which is a 3FT viv.

    He was in a tub for the first 3 years, which was small but he seemed ok but I always felt bad, so I went all out on his new set up.. but still sometimes I think he would like to travel/explore more, he has 2 long big logs to go in and out of and some bush decor..

    I wish I could get him like a 4ft huge viv, but I know this wouldn't be good for him, are BPs really content with hiding all day and then having the same smallish space to travel at night?

    Just something that has my curiosity and thought I would ask opinions.
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    When I see my Lucille moving around a lot i try to take her out and let her roam more, as well as rearrange her plants and stuff every once in awhile. I have my favorite 'looks' for her viv, but i try to think about it from her end and that it might be more interesting with a little mix up from time to time

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    Re: Quality of life

    Quote Originally Posted by Kittencaboodles View Post
    When I see my Lucille moving around a lot i try to take her out and let her roam more, as well as rearrange her plants and stuff every once in awhile. I have my favorite 'looks' for her viv, but i try to think about it from her end and that it might be more interesting with a little mix up from time to time
    I would like to mix things up, but I'm concerned about having wooden logs underneath the CHE, maybe I might take him out and let him roam for a while.
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    Quality of life

    I'm a firm believer in giving my snakes play days or exercise days.

    I give them things to climb on as simple as chairs, ladders, bed frames, etc. Basically anything to help tone muscle, burn calories, and give them exercise for the general health of the animal.

    I want to buy some large indoor trees or plants for them that they can climb as well.

    Get creative, besides , it's fun!



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    Re: Quality of life

    Haha that pic with BP at the top of your room is very nice haha!

    What do you house your BP in?

    Im assuming with your Boa and Carpet python you can have bigger spaces?
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    I am a firm believer of offering as much space as possible for your animals. They may not utilize it all the time, but the option is there. My Anteresia is barely 3ft long and he is in a 36inx18inx16in and I feel that is too small, I would love to upgrade him and plan on it in the near future once all my other animals are upgraded, that being said I am also the guy that uses bio-active substrate, live plants, and tries to make the enclosures match as close to their natural habitat as possible....so my cages are constantly evolving.
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    Quality of life

    Quote Originally Posted by SRMD View Post
    Haha that pic with BP at the top of your room is very nice haha!

    What do you house your BP in?

    Im assuming with your Boa and Carpet python you can have bigger spaces?
    I just have her in an Exo Terra glass Viv that's 36 x 18 x 18. Funny thing is, I have to keep it well ventilated or humidity runs too high!

    It's much larger than what she had, but I'm considering getting her a monster enclosure like what I just got my two other girls.




    Excited about feeding day!




    New 4 x 2 x 2's



    Now that Lizzy can stretch out I wonder if I went big enough?

    Last edited by Reinz; 09-09-2015 at 11:35 AM.
    The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.

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    Mack The Knife, 2013
    Lizzy, 2010
    Etta, 2013
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    Sundance, 2012
    2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
    0.1 Normal Ball Python, Elvira, 2001
    0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017

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    Re: Quality of life

    I think most snakes will use as much space as is given to them, though perhaps not when you're watching. If you are able to provide a larger space and maintain the right temperature gradient and humidity go for it! As long as adequate cover and plenty of hides are provided I think bigger is always better. It gives the snake more options and gives you more space to make the habitat interesting for them.

    I don't know if snakes feel happiness or boredom, exactly, but I do think that a stimulating environment can help an animal thrive.

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    Re: Quality of life

    I took my carpet out the other day and after a five minute stretch and getting rid of a rabbit she curled up under the table she stayed like that until I brought her back in....she is usually very active when out of her viv

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    Everyone has their own ideas about what constitutes a good quality of life for reptiles. Personally I believe that it is dependent on both the species and the individual animal itself. While I do agree that a bigger enclosure is usually better, there are a few caveats that must be considered. When the size of the enclosure increases, the cost, maintenance time, and difficulty to provide the correct temperatures also increases. It is important to weigh these variables against the perceived benefit of a larger enclosure. To me there is a realistic sweet spot when finding an appropriately sized enclosure that is also cost effective.

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