ill probably just go with a 10x4x3 for an enclosure size (significantly less but more than the average 8). Also i'm going to try to sort of edge it in their that its being fed to a snake, but my only concern is i'm afraid of a rejection when buying them if i have to drive 2 hours to get them because that would kill me on gas (i drive a ford econoline cargo) which is more money on i have to spend on gas and less on my new family member. As for the enclosure i will happily post pictures when it is finished I'm going to pic these NZ's up today in just a few hours. I'm buying 10 of them (they're only 5$). Thanks again everybody for making this a whole lot easier. I also did the nix on the vivarium, his paper towels (since hes albino the newspaper kinda gets all over him) and i silicone caulked all wholes to prevent mite re-infestation. I see very very few mites now perhaps like 1 miniscule one every now and again. going to do it a again here in a week, that should be the end of those little pesky suckers >