mites, just in time for my hatchlings.

[hungba]

Well, today I noticed one of my ball pythons had mites, in the main collection (snakes in quarantine seem mite free, go figure), so I guess I will have to treat them all.

What I am worried about, is that just my luck, some of my eggs are pipping...

I am nervous about treating snakes out of the egg like this.
Seeing the babies will be on wet paper towels till first shed too, I don't even know how I would do so. Also, some of my females are gravid.

Also, I live outside the USA, and we can not legally import PAM. Even my friend who owns a reptile shop said he isn't able to import it because of licenses required to import pesticides not registered here.

In the past, I have treated mites for the couple new snakes in quarantine with Frontline spray, but being so labor intensive I don't see how I can for the main collection.

We have a permethrin formula here, 0.25%, in a pump spray just like Sawyer's in the USA. It is called BIOKILL universal insecticide. I read in Italian reptile forums, that it is widely used. In the forum, some guy said he knew it was safe because he sprayed it directly onto a normal male, including the head, just to see if it hurt the snake and sort of boasted that the snake is still alive and well a year later (this is what I READ, I didn't and wouldn't do it, and think it is bad.) So, I take it if this is true that it can be used?

I also don't know, if the treated substrate, even though dried, and water bowl kept out 24 hours, if later some substrate gets knocked in the bowl, will the toxicity "reactivate"? Or if the bowl is spilled etc.

I have also heard people using Frontline spray as they would permethrin. Frontline does say that its residual effects last several weeks. But usually it is recommended that snakes ate treated directly with diluted Frontline.

I would like to ask advice on this. I'd especially like to hear Skiploder's view, as I respect.his opinion greatly.

[hungba]

typo, ate = are.

[Lady mkrj58]

Can you buy a product thats name is natural chemistry Reptile Spray... check Reptilebasics. Com Follow the directions and repeat when its says Great Product to have on hand. I would also advice White Paper so you can keep a good eye on the Situation. .

Sent from my SGH-T999

[hungba]

Not locally, no. I can check if I can import it but if that's the case that I have to rub on the snakes I might as well use frontline. Besides from reading, reptile relief only kills the adult mites anyway you still need permethrin for the residual effect on newly hatched eggs.

[Lady mkrj58]

Ya your dealing with alot right now, the product I mentioned are all Natural, I clean every thing with this Product. I hope you can come up with your plan of attack and its works well..

Sent from my SGH-T999

[hungba]

Hey, thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it.

[hungba]

How would I deal with the hatchling snakes and gravid females? Let's say with permethrin, are babies and gravid females more risky?

[hungba]

I may be mixing up products here. Is reptile relief the same as natural chemistry reptile spray? A google search makes me think they renamed the product?

[bcr229]

We have a permethrin formula here, 0.25%, in a pump spray just like Sawyer's in the USA. It is called BIOKILL universal insecticide.

That is basically half-strength PAM. I've never used permethrin directly on any of my snakes as IMO the risk of poisoning them is too high, but you can use it like PAM to treat the enclosure, hides, and paper substrate.

[hungba]

Thanks.

Can anyone tell me about safety of using permethrin or any other treatment, PAM or otherwise, for brand newly hatched babies, and gravid females? If that is not advised, then how? Also, the egg boxes incubating in the same room.