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    Re: It is time

    Here is the set up has a red night bulb.


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    i took one of the hides out last week because of shedding and wanted to give him a bit more room.

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    Re: It is time

    You can get a "versa top" from petco or petland to help with your humidity issues. I think it's best to find separate enclosures for all of them. Why don't you get a couple of locking tubs from Walmart? Cheap enough start to at least solve the cohabitation issue also?
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    Re: It is time

    i was already thinking about building a 3 tier snake rack.

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    Are you sure you're ready to get two more snakes? It sounds like you may not be properly set up for them yet. I don't mean to offend you, but I would make sure your current snake is being perfectly taken care of before you get more (humidity: 50-60%, temps: 75 cool-90 warm), especially if you suspect an RI. I would avoid rescues at this point to be honest. That's going to be a lot of work, and it's best not to rescue an animal before you are completely comfortable with the species.
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    Re: It is time

    well i just had mocha out and didn't hear anything on the side of a wheezing or popping sound. but im still going to monitor it for the next few days. and really for the offer that we got for them don't want to pass it up. im pretty comfortable with mine and usually like i said i keep humidity up in his environment just fine but i dropped it to try and dry it out completely before continuing to mist lightly to hep with humidity. but right now the snake seems fine active and happy. steady eating habits. and a nice shed. i just kinda tweaked out when i thought i may have heard something coming from the snake.

    There was no offense taken. i know i have alot to learn and that all come in time and research trial and error.

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    Re: It is time

    Quote Originally Posted by tvpthemvp View Post
    i agree heat lamps suck.... and agree its too low he has the water bowl with him and its roughly about 1/3 of the cage and doesnt help with humidity.. that's why i was misting to raise humidity for his shed but i though i had misted too much and gave him a RI. but im not sure. i havent had him out today to see if it is still persisting.

    i agree im not ready to breed there is a lot that i need to read and a lot that i need to learn to get it down. i added moss in the terrarium to help bring humidity up but like i said i haven't been misting lately because im trying to get some advice.

    fair enough on the morph. i will have better pics hopefully later tonight. and i can put them in another room.
    Snakes can be addictive; I've seen a lot of people go from one snake to many in a very short timespan only to find out that they can't or don't want to handle that many animals for the next 30 years. Just be sure you know what you're getting yourself into, as it sounds like you're pretty new to this.

    Are you SURE you gave him an RI by misting? Was there just minor popping and clicking? Was the snake's mouth gaping? Actual wheezing? Mucous or other discharge from the mouth? Was a vet consulted? I ask all these things because minor popping and clicking isn't uncommon before a shed, and a few days of high humidity shouldn't cause an RI if other husbandry factors are on point. 18% humidity is way too low, so shoot for 50-60% normally and a bit of a boost right before a shed. How are you measuring humidity? Some of the petstore gauges are just really inaccurate and I feel like you might have one of the poorer quality ones based on the readings you're getting...
    Sphagnum moss will help raise humidity. Just keep an eye on it because it has a tendency to mold.

    I agree with the others who have said the two you're getting need to be separated.

    As far as quarantining the newcomers, a good QT period is usually 90 days in a separate room without using any of the same equipment (like tongs) between your new snakes and the one you've already got, and washing your hands well between touching anything for the new snakes and old ones. If no one is acting unhealthy at the end of 90 days, you can move them into the same room. If the one you've already got turns out to have an RI, you should ideally start the quarantine period over again once he's been treated to avoid him spreading anything to the new snakes.
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    Re: It is time

    Quote Originally Posted by tvpthemvp View Post
    well i just had mocha out and didn't hear anything on the side of a wheezing or popping sound. but im still going to monitor it for the next few days. and really for the offer that we got for them don't want to pass it up. im pretty comfortable with mine and usually like i said i keep humidity up in his environment just fine but i dropped it to try and dry it out completely before continuing to mist lightly to hep with humidity. but right now the snake seems fine active and happy. steady eating habits. and a nice shed. i just kinda tweaked out when i thought i may have heard something coming from the snake.

    There was no offense taken. i know i have alot to learn and that all come in time and research trial and error.
    Alright, glad you weren't offended. Just triple check with yourself that you can handle this, and you can care for them for the next 20+ years. If you have any doubts, think about whether you're really ready for this. I just want to be sure that you are really ready for this, as any animal deserves a perfect home.

    If you do go through with this, be very careful to keep husbandry spot on for them. Be absolutely sure to quarantine them in a different room in separate enclosures for at least three months. Change your clothes before going back to the room with Mocha in it. Wash your hands up to the elbows. It pays to be careful with quarantine.
    Last edited by Penultimate; 07-06-2015 at 06:54 PM.
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    Re: It is time

    To help with your humidity problems:

    -try blocking the screen top with foil, cutting out a circle for your lamp and leaving an inch or so on each end for ventilation
    -stuff moist sphagnum moss in the corners and re soak it anytime it dries out
    -try a different substrate. I liked the results I got with coco coir in my old tank

    I think somebody said this already, but I think you should consider waiting to bring the other two snakes home until you can get your care figured out. If Mocha has an RI, it's more likely from the humidity being too low than from misting. Where ball pythons come from in tropical Africa, the humidity is usually in the 80s. 50% is the minimum. 18% is harmful.

    Also, make sure you fully understand this whole quarantine business and take it seriously. If you can't afford to go to the vet for one sick snake, imagine how you'll feel when it spreads and all three need vet care.
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    Re: It is time

    From what I can see, head blushing and eye color looks to be pastel. Looking at the second pic with the distorted coloring, you can see the snake has a two tone side pattern, another pastel marker.

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