Brian from BHB did not have the first scaleless. Eugene Bessette had a scaleless ball python way back in 2007 that died at 800 grams. I have no problem with people trying to make new combinations of proven genes (its fun), but there are some (not naming names) that are making up new genes that really are just a variation within an existing gene. The fact is that the top guys in the BP world are not going to out the fact that they are years ahead of where they say they are. An actual new gene, not a combination, is big money. They have to control the release of it so they can get as much money as possible.