Odd night behavior in BP? Help please!!

[RaeDee]

Morganaberkana, that's almost exactly what the guys at the store told me. They said one of her parents was either part spider or full spider, they weren't sure but that even in the off chance that she is fully pinstripe, she could still have a wobble. The guy who runs the shop is a friend of mine and he is going to call the breeder (his friend) and find out exactly what her parentage is. I made double sure to ask about poisoning and he said unless I used some sort of fragrance or spray in the room, (which I absolutely have not; I'm not an idiot) poisoning is highly unlikely. He also said, as I've mentioned before in this same thread, that if it were poisoning, she would be showing more frequent and severe symptoms, during the day. Not just during the night hours. She's eaten normally, had normal BMs and is doing everything a normal snake would be doing, except for that weird movement at night.


I just came here for advice but I'm honestly feeling kinda attacked right now! jeeze louise

[Dave Green]

Who's attacking? I think people are trying to help. It doesn't matter what the parents are, since your snake isn't a spider it doesn't have the spider wobble. If a non-spider wobbles I'd be pretty concerned. I've hatched over 1000 babies in the last 7 years and I've never seen a non-spider wobble. It may be random but it's more likely from another cause such as overheating, poisoning, etc. If you like the snake and can deal with the issue she may be fine.

[Albert Clark]

Well try to dispel that "attacked" feeling! Mostly everyone here is just trying to give possibilities of what the condition could be. We all feel like the bp is our own so we are trying to get to the bottom of the mystery. Hope you can get all the info you need on this. Good luck.

[RaeDee]

I meant 'attacked' in the sense that I'm being hit with a lot of competing information. Some people are telling me it's poisoning, which makes less sense to me honestly, seeing how she ONLY does this behavior at night and everything else is completely normal. Others are telling me its a random wobble that should not be worried about. OTHERS are telling me she's just an oddball. So I meant 'attacked' in the context of having all this conflicting information and not knowing what to do. I didn't mean to suggest that you had 'attacked' me, Dave Green lol I only meant that my brain feels attacked!

[M.P.C]

Just an overload of info ontop of you already being worried about your snake, just take the suggestions and check that they arent the cause and move on to the next one eliminating possibilites best you can.... and as you said the parent may be spider so she could just have the spider wobble and it be nothing at all

[RaeDee]

I'm honestly not nearly as worried about this behavior as I was yesterday. I truly believe she's just an oddball who likes to do weird stuff at night. I guess she gets it from her mama. But of course, I'll keep both eyes on her and watch this behavior for changes, just to be sure she doesn't worsen. Thanks everyone for the advice! And thanks for taking it easy on the newbie

[Morganaberkana]

Morganaberkana, that's almost exactly what the guys at the store told me. They said one of her parents was either part spider or full spider, they weren't sure but that even in the off chance that she is fully pinstripe, she could still have a wobble. The guy who runs the shop is a friend of mine and he is going to call the breeder (his friend) and find out exactly what her parentage is. I made double sure to ask about poisoning and he said unless I used some sort of fragrance or spray in the room, (which I absolutely have not; I'm not an idiot) poisoning is highly unlikely. He also said, as I've mentioned before in this same thread, that if it were poisoning, she would be showing more frequent and severe symptoms, during the day. Not just during the night hours. She's eaten normally, had normal BMs and is doing everything a normal snake would be doing, except for that weird movement at night.


I just came here for advice but I'm honestly feeling kinda attacked right now! jeeze louise

I am a new bp owner myself, so I understand the feeling of being overwhelmed with information! I've only had my boy for a month now, but I think you're doing okay. In all actuality getting the information from the breeder is the best way to go for now, IMO. The breeder can tell you if she has always done it or not and whether he/she has noticed it in other Spider parent clutches. The more information you have on her the better prepared you will be to care for her You could also watch some YouTube videos of a spider wobble, it really looks exactly like what your girl is doing. My boy's wobble gets worse when he's hungry or when he's anxious but otherwise it's exactly the same as your girl. If all else fails you could take her to the vet and see what they say. But like I said I think getting info from the breeder is a great way to go!

[jkconstrictor]

I have a stinger bee (enchi spyder) and he does the same thing its the spyder wobble

[Eric Alan]

The breeder can tell you if she has always done it or not and whether he/she has noticed it in other Spider parent clutches.

Dave said it already, but it looks like it needs to be clarified again. It doesn't matter one single iota if either of the parents were a Spider because the OP's snake is not carrying the Spider gene. The "Spider wobble gene" is only passed along with the Spider gene. The cause of what RaeDee is seeing has nothing to do with Spider wobble.

[RaeDee]

Ok well if its not a spider wobble or poisoning, which I'm 100% sure it's not (because where are these symptoms during the day or when I'm holding her?), then I don't know what it is. She may just be a weird snake. I'm not going to worry any further about it until (IF) she starts showing worse or more frequent symptoms. Aside from this neck thing at night, she behaves like a normal ball python. So I'm going to treat her as such. I have an exotics vet very near me so if she does get worse, I'll take her straight in. For now, I'm going to leave her be and treat her normally. thanks again to everyone for their input and guidance!