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    The guilt thread, did you donate in hopes to overturn the lacey act additions?

    For anyone living under a rock in the reptile hobby, here is a summary of what has been going on:


    I know everyone has their own opinion about how issues should be handled and I personally don't think USARK has done everything correct. To generalize the whole issue though, I do agree that it sounds like this lawsuit is our best chance to right the wrong and prevent any other wrong. Big snakes are the easy target, people fear them, media plays this fear, snowballing issue. However the lacey act doesn't care how dangerous an animal, one of it's main notes is to prevent invasive species from becoming invasive. Without typing a mile long post, it comes down to this: after the easy targets are added, how long until ball pythons are considered invasive? How long until our entire hobby is considered invasive? It has nothing to do with the threat on humans that is brought up constantly. Even if you have zero interest in big snakes, like me, I still feel this needs to be squashed now or the hobby is going to be black market only eventually. I don't wish to see that.

    I realize everyone is in a different state economically but I don't believe there is anyone who cannot donate a dollar, this forum has nearly 50k members, yes I realize some are not active accounts, but still, it would be quite the donation if everyone donated just one dollar.

    So here is me making you feel guilty, where's your dollar? http://usark.org/reptile-defense-fund-2/
    Last edited by OhhWatALoser; 03-08-2015 at 10:36 AM.

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    I donated yesterday and renewed my Bronze Membership. It's not much, but every little bit helps. And at this point, this really is the best way to make a difference. Everybody donate!


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    There is also this that haa been going around as well.

    https://www.change.org/p/u-s-house-o...src-custom_msg
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    Is there an address we can mail money to? (I don't have a bank account or paypal)
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    Re: The guilt thread, did you donate in hopes to overturn the lacey act additions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel.michelle View Post
    There is also this that haa been going around as well.

    https://www.change.org/p/u-s-house-o...src-custom_msg
    This will not do anything, it is beyond the petition point, the ONLY hope is USARK and supporting the lawsuit, sure it's not gonna hurt to sign but if everyone signing would give to USARK instead it would accomplish a lot more.

    I understand the good intentions but those petitions popping here and there making people believe that they are helping will not accomplish anything, people need to join USARK and donate.
    Deborah Stewart


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    I know, but it can't hurt. Plus it's just a click, it's more for awareness of it.
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    Re: The guilt thread, did you donate in hopes to overturn the lacey act additions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel.michelle View Post
    Is there an address we can mail money to? (I don't have a bank account or paypal)
    From their web site, the address on their financial statements is:
    UNITED STATES ASSOCIATION OF REPTILE KEEPERS, INC
    5813 CAROLINA BEACH ROAD
    WILMINGTON, NC 28412

    Don't send cash, go to the post office and get a money order.

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    Telling it like it is! Stewart_Reptiles's Avatar
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    Re: The guilt thread, did you donate in hopes to overturn the lacey act additions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel.michelle View Post
    I know, but it can't hurt. Plus it's just a click, it's more for awareness of it.
    Yes and no, the problem is that right now I have seen 2 different petitions and more will likely pop up over the next few days. I understand they are well meant but sadly a lot of people signing those will feel like "oh well I did my part" and it will make people feel good thinking they made a difference.

    The awareness should be about USARK, their mission, and how people can really help.

    It's about telling people about USARK some still do not know about it, volunteering time at their table when they are present at a show, joining, donating money, supporting auctions etc.
    Deborah Stewart


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    Re: The guilt thread, did you donate in hopes to overturn the lacey act additions?

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    From their web site, the address on their financial statements is:
    UNITED STATES ASSOCIATION OF REPTILE KEEPERS, INC
    5813 CAROLINA BEACH ROAD
    WILMINGTON, NC 28412

    Don't send cash, go to the post office and get a money order.

    i found this address in their website but is not the same as your
    USARK Reptile Defense Fund
    3650 Sacramento Drive
    San Luis Obispo, CA 93401

    Heres the link http://usark.org/reptile-defense-fund-2/
    -Chris

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    Re: The guilt thread, did you donate in hopes to overturn the lacey act additions?

    How can i donate using my Bank account only, i dont have a paypal account😔
    -Chris

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