Questions about breeding morphs?

[Citrus]

I plan to breed my female pastel and male pinstripe when they are ready. Just breeding two snakes sounds simple to me, but there are things I don't understand from a genetic point of view.
What difference is it to have one morph as a female and another a male? I see people talk in threads and videos and at expos about how "if it's a female we will hold on to this one" but no idea what difference it makes.
And can I do this: I plan to get a pastel enchi down the line to experiment with, would I be able breed my pinstripe to my pastel, and then breed the pastel enchi to the pastel for the same clutch of eggs? What is the downside of this, if at all possible? Can I do this every breeding?
Also, for something like "pastel enchi" does it make a difference what morph name is first? Like is an "enchi pastel" the same, or is all depending on what the mother and father was?

Thanks


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[Daigga]

I plan to breed my female pastel and male pinstripe when they are ready. Just breeding two snakes sounds simple to me, but there are things I don't understand from a genetic point of view.
What difference is it to have one morph as a female and another a male? I see people talk in threads and videos and at expos about how "if it's a female we will hold on to this one" but no idea what difference it makes.

Different combination possibilities. If you produced a male pastel from this clutch, it opens up the possibilities for super pastels if bred back to the mother. Otherwise I think it's mostly personal preference (I want to make x morph, but I need y gender to combine with z that I already have, so I'm looking for this specific gender morph to hatch out for myself).

And can I do this: I plan to get a pastel enchi down the line to experiment with, would I be able breed my pinstripe to my pastel, and then breed the pastel enchi to the pastel for the same clutch of eggs? What is the downside of this, if at all possible? Can I do this every breeding?

These are called "who's your daddy" clutches. Multiple males can be put to the same female for the chance of a multiple sired clutch. Before you get too excited, each egg will only have one sire, not the genetics from both. You can't put a pin male and a spider male to the same pastel female and get spinner blasts, genetics doesn't work that way. You could do this as often as you please, but keep in mind that with recessive projects a multiple sired clutch is going to whack out your odds (an albino male and a pastel male put to a pastel female will give you a bunch of eggs that may or may not be het albino and you wouldn't have any way of knowing which was which. Well, super pastels would obviously not have albino but you get the point).

I'm not sure how evenly split multiple sired clutches are. A good guess would be 50/50 each sire, but something tells me it doesn't usually work out that way.

Also, for something like "pastel enchi" does it make a difference what morph name is first? Like is an "enchi pastel" the same, or is all depending on what the mother and father was?

Thanks

Same thing. There may or may not be phonetic rules for morph names, but I've just been going with "it is called what the producer called it". I bought my calico pastel as a calico pastel, I don't ever call him a pastel calico even though it would mean the same thing. Technically it's also correct to call a bumblebee a spider pastel or pastel spider, but just calling it a bumblebee makes lives easier (which is weird, because now you have to learn a new name instead of just combining two old names).

[Citrus]

Thank you!!!


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[Family Jewels]

Also, for something like "pastel enchi" does it make a difference what morph name is first? Like is an "enchi pastel" the same, or is all depending on what the mother and father was?

A word of caution with this. Enchis used to be called "Enchi pastels" as a single morph. Nowadays, breeders refrain from adding the word "pastel" onto enchi because it's too confusing and makes it sound like there are two morphs.

To this day, if I hear "Enchi pastel" I'm not sure if they just mean a regular Enchi. If I hear "Pastel Enchi" I assume they mean there are two morphs: Pastel and Enchi. The only way to be sure is to ask the breeder. "Pastel Enchi" is the better (clearer) way to denote two genes... whereas "Enchi Pastel" is extremely ambiguous given its history, so make sure to ask for clarification. http://pythonregius.com/enchipastelballpythons.aspx


99% of the time it doesn't matter which word comes first, but for a few morphs (ex. Enchi pastel, Caramel albino, Desert Ghost, black pastel) you have to make sure you know whether the name denotes one morph or two.

If you want a real headache, consider this: There is a Desert morph (single gene), a Ghost morph (single gene), and a Desert Ghost morph (single gene). These three are completely unrelated. So if you combine a Desert with a Ghost, you don't get a Desert Ghost, you get a "Goldenrod" because the phrase "Desert Ghost" was already taken. Hope this helps more than it confuses. When in doubt, ask the breeder to clarify.

[Citrus]

That actually helps a lot. I probably would have ended up buying a regular enchi had you never posted that! Thanks!


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