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    Exclamation Does it affect my non breeder BPs?

    Ok so I would like to breed some of my ball pythons and i have researched all the info and i know that in order to get BPs to breed you should lower your temps to lower 70s
    but my question is -- if i have all my BPs in the same room does the lower temps affect the other snakes that are not breeding like my babies and juveniles?
    Im concerned about my other snakes getting sick!!(
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    It's not really necessary to lower the temps. Just pair established animals in good, proper condition. If you don't lower the temperatures, you don't have to worry about low temperatures negatively affecting anybody.

    (As a for-instance just how little temps seem to matter, my temps are actually the most constant in winter with my current setup, as winter and early spring are the only times I run a heater in the studio/snake room, at a steady 72-73ish. In summer, without climate control beyond window technology, I can see swings from the low 80s to the low 60s in this same room. I choose to breed in winter, and my BPs tend to ovulate in late spring and lay in early summer.)

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    Re: Does it affect my non breeder BPs?

    I've never lowered my temps and have had no problem with them locking. First clutch should be dropping in the next couple weeks.

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    No temp drops here either.
    That being said, there are things out of your control that happen in the environment that kick in their breeding drive.
    However there are people that also breed year round, what does that tell you about this "season" you have been researching?

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    Ambient temps can stay about the same year round. I keep ambient ~75F year round. I don't change ambient temps because it does have an effect on my incubator temps to a very small degree.

    I drop the thermostat on the breeder females from ~89F to ~84F during "prime" breeding season (for me December- March). but I do have females laying nearly year round in all conditions. Some females will lay every 12 months, but others seem to take 14- 15 months to lay again, thus making it a year round season here as the years go on.

    ie: 0.2 Pastels laid last "season" in October and January. This season the October girl is currently 35 days post ovy shed and should lay eggs any second, while the January 0.1 Pastel just ovulated yesterday. That makes eggs ~16 months and 15 months respectively.

    Always fun trying to keep the males going year round

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    Re: Does it affect my non breeder BPs?

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    No temp drops here either.
    That being said, there are things out of your control that happen in the environment that kick in their breeding drive.
    However there are people that also breed year round, what does that tell you about this "season" you have been researching?
    Yeah i also read something about some breeders are breeding their balls year round but i also read that is better to breed during winter cus is their hatural breeding season and you get better results
    I dont know how accurite this info is
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    Re: Does it affect my non breeder BPs?

    Quote Originally Posted by coreydelong View Post
    Ambient temps can stay about the same year round. I keep ambient ~75F year round. I don't change ambient temps because it does have an effect on my incubator temps to a very small degree.

    I drop the thermostat on the breeder females from ~89F to ~84F during "prime" breeding season (for me December- March). but I do have females laying nearly year round in all conditions. Some females will lay every 12 months, but others seem to take 14- 15 months to lay again, thus making it a year round season here as the years go on.

    ie: 0.2 Pastels laid last "season" in October and January. This season the October girl is currently 35 days post ovy shed and should lay eggs any second, while the January 0.1 Pastel just ovulated yesterday. That makes eggs ~16 months and 15 months respectively.

    Always fun trying to keep the males going year round

    I keep my ambient temps 78f-80f all the time its that ok or should i lower at least to 75-76f?
    How long do you wait to breed your females again?
    -Chris

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    Exclamation Re: Does it affect my non breeder BPs?

    Quote Originally Posted by fLako0aGuiiLaR View Post
    Ok so I would like to breed some of my ball pythons and i have researched all the info and i know that in order to get BPs to breed you should lower your temps to lower 70s
    but my question is -- if i have all my BPs in the same room does the lower temps affect the other snakes that are not breeding like my babies and juveniles?
    Im concerned about my other snakes getting sick!!(
    True that cooling method is not necessary but highly controversial in the industry. Stay away from low 70'S. If anything it would be mid to high 70's for a night time drop and even that is controversial. Some breeders do drops in the 80's. The biggest drawback is some animals do wind up with respiratory illnesses because of it. Some of those illnesses respond to just increases in the temps once again. For the most part breeding is year round with many breeders doing the non cooling. Welcome to the club!!! Stay in peace and not pieces. Good luck. A.C.

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