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View Poll Results: Which Male should Josh choose?
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Lesser Pied
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VPI Snow
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Albino Black Pastel
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Super Pastel Mojave
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Help Josh pick
Alright guys, this is my 10 year old son Josh's female spinner. He picked her out as a show a couple years ago and now she is close to breeding size/age. She is not het for anything, but if he chooses a male with recessives he will get to pick hold back and will have plenty of options for next generation pairings. It's totally his decision what male we use. These are his options: A. Lesser Pied B. VPI Snow C. Albino Black Pastel D. Super Pastel Mojave. Please comment below with which one he should choose and why.
Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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Re: Help Josh pick
I'm a big fan of Lemon Blasts, Bumble Bee's and Bumble Bee Mojaves.
So I would vote for breeding with the Super Pastel Mojave
Last edited by kmanpwnudwn; 02-14-2015 at 09:58 PM.
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1.0 Pastel Yellow Belly (Armstrong)
0.1 Kingpin (Lacy)
1.0 GTP (Java)
0.1 Rainbow Boa (Rose)
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If he's in it for the long run I like the black pastel albino pairing
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1.0 Hypo Jungle Boa
0.1 Irian Jaya Jaguar Carpet
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I would go with the super pastel mojave fot the following reasons.
the lesser pied is an whole white snake, spider tends to do almost the same with piebalds and me personally like piebalds with a bit more pattern 
the VPI snow is an albino combo and i like my albino's to be high contrast when you add spider or pinstripe to the albino there is only a small amount of white between the yellows.
i love Black Pastel Albino's for their high contrast but as said above the spider and pinstripe will eliminate that.
That leave the Super Pastel Mojave wich I would love to have in my collection
and the fun thing by using the Super Pastel Mojave is that you will have no normals and there is like a ton of possible outcomes when the eggs hatch, so it will be a real surprise what you get
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Females;
Normal 100% het. Hypo, Lesser Pastel, Super Fire, Leopard, Mojave, Pastel het. Piebald, Orange Ghost, Pastel 100% het. Clown, Normal (very clean and reduced patterned) 100% het. Clown, Enchi, Pinstripe, Black Pewter, Albino 100% het. Piebald, Normal 66% ph Hypo, Normal 66% ph Piebald
Males;
Clown, Super Pastel Calico, HGWG, Pastel 100% het Piebald, Cardamon Fire 50% ph Hypo, Banana, GHI, Cinnamon 66%ph Piebald
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I am going to have to go with the Lesser Pied. You get the same number of possible different snakes as you would with the Super Pastel Mojave (1/8), but the holdbacks to breed later would make it way more worth it imo.
1. het Pied 1. Albino 1. Lesser 1. Fire 1. OG 1. Pinstripe het VPI Axanthic 1. Mojave Enchi
1. Bumblebee 1. Black Pastel Kingpin 1. Pastel Tiger
.1 Pastel .1 Pastel het Pied .1 Calico .1 OG .1 Mojave het Lavender Albino .1 Lithium .1 Caramel Spider .1 Bumblebee .1 Bumblebee het Clown .1 Leopard
1. Wild Caught Corn 1. Coral Snow Corn .1 Snow Corn .1 Butter Corn .1 Albino Reverse Okeetee Corn ?.? Frilled Dragon .2 Ferrets
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Are we kidding.... lol!!
VPI Snow all the way. 100% DH combos 
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What YOU like.
Depends on your budget and also depends on whether you want instant gratification with your first clutch or want to work in long term project that may not pay off before another 3 years.
I like long term projects myself however the only long term I would go for with a spinner would be Hypo combo, I am not a fan of snow or albino and what they do to pin, spider or spinner.
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Re: Help Josh pick
 Originally Posted by Deborah
What YOU like.
Depends on your budget and also depends on whether you want instant gratification with your first clutch or want to work in long term project that may not pay off before another 3 years.
I like long term projects myself however the only long term I would go for with a spinner would be Hypo combo, I am not a fan of snow or albino and what they do to pin, spider or spinner.
Not what I like, it's up to my son. He gets to pick but wanted input on what people would say. I hope he picks one of the ones with recessives as that would be a better genetics lesson.
We already have these 4 males, so budget doesn't really play into it.
Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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In that case... Can I borrow your pied?  hahaha
1. het Pied 1. Albino 1. Lesser 1. Fire 1. OG 1. Pinstripe het VPI Axanthic 1. Mojave Enchi
1. Bumblebee 1. Black Pastel Kingpin 1. Pastel Tiger
.1 Pastel .1 Pastel het Pied .1 Calico .1 OG .1 Mojave het Lavender Albino .1 Lithium .1 Caramel Spider .1 Bumblebee .1 Bumblebee het Clown .1 Leopard
1. Wild Caught Corn 1. Coral Snow Corn .1 Snow Corn .1 Butter Corn .1 Albino Reverse Okeetee Corn ?.? Frilled Dragon .2 Ferrets
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Re: Help Josh pick
Originally Posted by Viol8r
In that case... Can I borrow your pied? hahaha
Haha, trust me, he has been very busy this past year and will be for the foreseeable future.
Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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